Posted on Nov 15, 2016
SFC Edward Nicholson
4
4
0
Posted in these groups: Job fair logo Civilian Career
Avatar feed
Responses: 5
MAJ Rene De La Rosa
1
1
0
There is a notion that former SMs have issues and problems and that the new employer is will have issues and problems with them. This misconception permeates the public, and is problematic to all future former SMs as they seek employment when they leave the service.
(1)
Comment
(0)
SPC Nicholas Cummings
SPC Nicholas Cummings
8 y
Unfortunately I have to agree since I've been subject to disabled-veteran discrimination in the workplace immediately after separating from service in '15.

During an interview I was asked if I had "PTSD or shell-shock".... shame on me for taking the position after that incident. One day I walked in to find the same CIO who asked me this rifling through my cubicle belongings with my prescription allergy medication bottle in his hand. When I questioned him why, he stated he had a "need-to-know if you are taking hardcore narcotics or hallucinagins"!

Shocked and insulted I filed a formal HR complaint... of course the company HR VP sided with him as it was in the company's best interest, offering me a secret offer of 6 weeks paid leave to look for other employment and forced me to listen to his obligatory/empty apology.

This experience was a huge insult to my service and career-ending/life-changing injury. This proved to me that the majority of civilians are ignorant of service member sacrifices and cannot relate to veterans and will so quickly ostrasize us.

I luckily found similar employment on a nearby base and am surrounded by understanding veterans who are thankfully easy to relate to and understanding of the struggles many of us face following separation.

Moral of the story.... majority of non-veteran executives in the workplace don't understand or care about veterans. But hey, they sure as hell gave me a flag shaped cookie on Veterans day so they did their part!
(1)
Reply
(0)
Avatar small
SGT English/Language Arts Teacher
1
1
0
I think it has a lot of impact. One bad attitude can tarnish the good of a dozen service members.
(1)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small
CPT Nicholas D.
0
0
0
Very good question! I think that is something that we need to ask ourselves when we look at the presentation we make as veterans to the civilian/business sector. I was asked once to look over a friend's Business School letter. The essay was asking "what is the hardest thing you have ever faced and how did you handle it." His essay was an awesome war story of combat valor and the tragedy of a wounded comrade. There were 'blood & guts', and medevac helicopters. 30+ constructive surgeries and the unit's adjustment to sectors of fire while destroying the enemy position with violence of action. His summary ended with mission requirements to be numb to the story's events and "continuing the mission" while erasing emotional attachment. It was a great story for the VFW bar... and maybe even relevant to Combat Stress Management to fellow warfigthers. The perspective that it portrayed to the civilian business realm was robotic and void of human emotion. I recommended the author evaluate the appropriate audience and make the story relevant to "why you should accept me into your MBA program." The grad student sitting in a cubicle with zero military experience is not going to have an appreciation for battlefield grandeur, and their perceptive take away might be negative when sorting through other potential candidates.

With a civilian population largely removed from the war-time experiences of our current Armed Forces, there is a gap we as servicemembers feel compelled to bridge with sharing our stories. That is healthy. But we also have to know our audience, and know that although you might be successful at the "jaw-drop effect," and you may have felt you have communicated your warrior acumen... The rest of the population is going to be pre-dispositioned to assume you are another pill-poping depressed and jaded veteran who's rampant alcohol abuse and inability to conform to modern "normal" society will be a liability to an organization that just wants to peddle widgets at the maximum market price without the sounds of explosions, skull fragments, and blood trails impacting workforce efficiency. "Thanks Hollywood." We need our stories told, but we need to know the appropriate format, timing, and venue for them. If you are applying for a job in business, your door-kicking ability will have little contribution except maybe a brief record of your resilience, courage under pressure, and ability to stay on task under the harshest of conditions. Other than that, save the juicy stuff for the folks that will have an appreciation for it. Most of them were with you when that happened.
(0)
Comment
(0)
Avatar small

Join nearly 2 million former and current members of the US military, just like you.

close