Posted on Apr 29, 2017
How does your Commander's performance on their PT test influence your opinion of them?
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Do you think more or less of a commander if they get the maximum score possible on their APFT (or whatever test your respective service takes)? During my enlisted days I don't think I ever had a commander who was a PT stud. If I had a commander who couldn't pass a PT test I might honestly think less of them, but I don't know if they really need to blow it out of the water. Thoughts?
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I personally do care, i dont need a Commander that scores 300s but i also dont want one that bearly passes. I would say 240+ With 70 minimum in the run because that leaves room for a bad day. And 80 PU SU because to be honest, graders hand out candy alot. basically what I ask of my soldiers
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I don’t think it matter is they max. Seeing as majority of the military doesn’t max it. If the commander were to fail though I feel it would have a great impact. Atleast throughout his company or whatever he is in command of. The main question would be, “How can you preach PT standards to us when you yourself can not pass?”
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I think it should be a standard for your commander to pass the PT test. Why would he expect you to be physically fit and ready to deploy if he can't do it himself. He is there to lead from the front not the rear...
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Honestly sir yes and no. First off if said commander is “high speed” and is grinding on his/her troops to be better at pt when he/she barley making the minimum he/she should practice what they preaches so he himself or herself can set the standard for his/her troops as a leader. Now is said commander is “high speed” is above the standard he/she should conduct pt with the troop under his/hers command that’s how you build a strong relationship with your troop lead from the front
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I had an ER doc in the reserves who was a PT stud. He had a goal. At the age of 43 he joined a West Virginia ANG unit that was SF. ALL the time he spent in PT was to prepare himself for the rigors of SF training. He maxed the test for 18 year olds. He excelled in the SF and retired from there after multiple deployments.
I respected all of that. But a really respected his ER/Surgical skill and his people skills. He was inspiring. Failing in any way, in front of him, made you feel bad. Like you had personally failed him. He was the best commander I ever had.
I respected all of that. But a really respected his ER/Surgical skill and his people skills. He was inspiring. Failing in any way, in front of him, made you feel bad. Like you had personally failed him. He was the best commander I ever had.
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I maxed my first three or four APFT’s as an enlisted man. Best PU 102. Best SU 94. Best 2 mile run 10:54. ( I came in 7th btw. Post commander’s daughter beat us all)
Then I got into power lifting. Gained a bunch of weight. And the injuries began.
I toughed it out for 25 years, 8 ortho surgeries, and 4 knee dislocations before I got a medical discharge.
Why do I detail all of this for you? Because, if you really want to stay in, you can. Mine was a rough ride. But not anywhere near as rough as friends I know who have lost limbs and still serve.
Final point. ALWAYS STRIVE TO BE BETTER.
Then I got into power lifting. Gained a bunch of weight. And the injuries began.
I toughed it out for 25 years, 8 ortho surgeries, and 4 knee dislocations before I got a medical discharge.
Why do I detail all of this for you? Because, if you really want to stay in, you can. Mine was a rough ride. But not anywhere near as rough as friends I know who have lost limbs and still serve.
Final point. ALWAYS STRIVE TO BE BETTER.
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Being in Medevac DUSTOFF and MAST units of various sizes in my enlisted medical career, my unit makeup was consisted of about 1/3 Officers, with the Commander just being one of the many. Nobody cared how well the Pilots did on the APFTs, as long as they passed them the same as we all had to. The Commander was more liked for leading and supporting our unit mission and personnel wisely. Sure we ran 2 to 4 miles every other day, often more on Fridays, with him in the lead whenever he could be there. But it was the same for the rest of us doing unit 24/7/365 Medevac Standby. It wasn't that unusual for any of us to possibly miss being within a PT Formation for a week or more because of other duty requirements. Our main focus was the mission of saving lives, not some PT Test.
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