Posted on Apr 29, 2017
How does your Commander's performance on their PT test influence your opinion of them?
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Do you think more or less of a commander if they get the maximum score possible on their APFT (or whatever test your respective service takes)? During my enlisted days I don't think I ever had a commander who was a PT stud. If I had a commander who couldn't pass a PT test I might honestly think less of them, but I don't know if they really need to blow it out of the water. Thoughts?
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Dont care if they pass. Stupid question. Unless you a special commander. Then that different. Just pass it not.
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Personal opinion.. i know i rarely max out the APFT, but when it comes to leadership, i dont think they should be able to kick someone out who can’t pass if they can’t pass either. But i feel our leadership should set the bar high for those under them. How can i expect that they have what it takes to keep going and drag my ass if i was to god forbid get wounded, if they can’t continue pushing them selves on their own time to get stronger and rise above?
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You can’t lead from behind. I always believed in leading by example, and always strived to max the PT test. Never asked my fellow soldiers to do anything that I could not do.
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As long as they actually take one when the entire unit takes one and they pass, I could care less if they max it or squeak by. I’ve had past CDR’s and officers not take it with the unit ever. It lowered the morale and forced brigade to get involved. When that happened all but one officer failed either PT test or height/weight. It reflected poorly on the unit. I haven’t been in that unit for years now and I still hear negative things. After 3 CDR’s the unit is finally starting to lose its bad rep
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I don’t care what they get as long as they don’t do bullshit push-ups to Max it and then preach about pt later
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What always rankled the hackles of the enlisted, especially junior enlisted, when I was in, regardless of unit or component, was that the handful of officers in the company were never present for PT, and took their APFTs as a group at an "undisclosed location. "
It seemed to me then, and I still feel that if group PT is as much about espirit d' corps as physical readiness, then in that instance where a single standard applies to all personnel, my slightly rotund PL should be leading from the front, or puking up his Monday morning hangover right there with his Joes.
Although they were often seen in PT gear, we never saw an officer actually doing PT until we were deployed. The one we respected the most was the young butterbar who took us to the gym to work out with him every evening we were in a civilized locale.
It seemed to me then, and I still feel that if group PT is as much about espirit d' corps as physical readiness, then in that instance where a single standard applies to all personnel, my slightly rotund PL should be leading from the front, or puking up his Monday morning hangover right there with his Joes.
Although they were often seen in PT gear, we never saw an officer actually doing PT until we were deployed. The one we respected the most was the young butterbar who took us to the gym to work out with him every evening we were in a civilized locale.
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Honestly when I was in I didn’t purely judge anyone on an APFT. Being Infantry we had that “image” we held our leadership in, in that they should lead from the front and do better than those they are leading. In the end if someone has personal battles with physical fitness they need to be recognized and considered. I for the most part did have commanders and platoon leaders that nearly or did max their APFT.
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Yes Sir, definitely need to do the absolute best you can on the APFT and daily PT. for that matter!
I had both versions of Commander's, and I will tell you, how they did on their own PT. test was noticed by all. If you are going to be a successful leader than you need to lead from the front. I personally was considered a PT stud, but only because I thought it necessary to show my soldier's that I could and would do what I asked them to do. It was always a good day when your whole unit completed the run together! Physical fitness is only one part to being a good leader, but a very important one.
I had both versions of Commander's, and I will tell you, how they did on their own PT. test was noticed by all. If you are going to be a successful leader than you need to lead from the front. I personally was considered a PT stud, but only because I thought it necessary to show my soldier's that I could and would do what I asked them to do. It was always a good day when your whole unit completed the run together! Physical fitness is only one part to being a good leader, but a very important one.
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