Posted on Apr 29, 2017
How does your Commander's performance on their PT test influence your opinion of them?
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Do you think more or less of a commander if they get the maximum score possible on their APFT (or whatever test your respective service takes)? During my enlisted days I don't think I ever had a commander who was a PT stud. If I had a commander who couldn't pass a PT test I might honestly think less of them, but I don't know if they really need to blow it out of the water. Thoughts?
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I believe that any Officers worth their Salt should be as Fit Mentally as They are Physically. They need not be Rambo, They need to be Compatent and Able.
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No big deal at all considering some of the biggest and buffest wussed out after just a couple of miles on a road march while some of the most overweight commanders did it no problem! mental discipline is what is important!
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How can anyone enforce a high standard if they are not at least trying to be the best? I understand some people aren’t the best in certain events but continual growth should occur. From my experience most of our officers didn’t take or tests probably because they would fail. And the warrant officers had their apft score cards generated by the orderly room. For me they didn’t have to be the biggest stud though it was cool when they were, but I was happy when they were actually taking the pt tests and were working to do better each time. But typically it is something to look down on.
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I wouldn't care how well or bad they do as long as they pass, because I don't believe a commander should ask their troops to do something that they couldn't do. You lead by example.
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I've never been concerned about any officer and their ability when it comes to PT in general. I've only ever worried about my soldiers and myself I hold them and myself to the same standards. I would expect an officer in command to be able to pass AFPT. But saying that I'm not accountable for any officer in those regards. But it does show something to the soldiers that fall within his or her command when their commander or any Officer in their chain who strive to do their best to include us NCOs how they should try to exceed not just meet standards
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I'll say as an older junior soldier. I appreciate a good work ethic of all my leaders. You can't expect the soldiers to try and excel in all the walks of being a soldier. If they're leader doesn't do the same. No matter the rank we are always being watched by someone. I am not saying one should be a 300 guy. Just look for effort.
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Personally, CO’s and 1SG’s should be leading from the front (as should all other leaders.) As a CO, I expected maximum score and maximum effort. You didn’t have to be the fastest or the strongest as long as my leaders were always striving to improve and their Soldiers could tell they were trying. That was good enough for me and made all the difference to them (Soldiers).
Physical fitness directly correlates to Presence (one of the six leadership requirements). I’ve found that gaining the respect of my subordinates has always started here with Presence, and the first place you start working this is on the PT field side-by-side with your Soldiers. You don’t have to max, but how can you do this if you aren’t fit?
Ultimately, you have to remain humble, encouraging, and I highly recommend a reward program (days for self PT for 90/90/90 or 300, a pass for the highest score but also for the most improved etc.) If your Soldiers are trying, sincerely giving it their all, encourage and help them don’t dog them, but always remember our job is to train them to fight and win for our nation in Full-Spectrum Operations on the ground. To do this they have to effectively preform their job(s) in an austere and dangerous environment which requires being fit. The best way to take care of your Soldiers, is to train them hard and train them well.
Physical fitness directly correlates to Presence (one of the six leadership requirements). I’ve found that gaining the respect of my subordinates has always started here with Presence, and the first place you start working this is on the PT field side-by-side with your Soldiers. You don’t have to max, but how can you do this if you aren’t fit?
Ultimately, you have to remain humble, encouraging, and I highly recommend a reward program (days for self PT for 90/90/90 or 300, a pass for the highest score but also for the most improved etc.) If your Soldiers are trying, sincerely giving it their all, encourage and help them don’t dog them, but always remember our job is to train them to fight and win for our nation in Full-Spectrum Operations on the ground. To do this they have to effectively preform their job(s) in an austere and dangerous environment which requires being fit. The best way to take care of your Soldiers, is to train them hard and train them well.
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