How does your Commander's performance on their PT test influence your opinion of them?

Look you should always try to get a 300 you are the leader of the unit you command. Almost every unit I was in required a minimum above the minimum like a 270 or higher if you can't get that score as the commander you have failed. Unless injured don't be a dirt bag and set a good example.

I dont think any Commander i had was a pt stud, but i would find it highly hypocritical for them to scream at me for not passing it, if they couldn't.

Personally, I have always felt to much emphasis has been placed on PT score. I have known plenty of PT studs with ZERO leadership skills. Education, Training, Key ;leadership skills are essential to good leadership. Yes, physical fitness is important for all soldiers, but has no significance to ones ability to lead. I don't care if they are max score or barely passing. If they are an idiot, they are still an idiot. I have seen top tier soldiers treated like sh--bags, because of 1% bodyfat, 1 or two pushups or situps, even 1 second on a run (seen them debate that one). I have seen selfish, self centered incompetent glory hounds, who's only skill is their PT score.
Look at a leader/ soldiers ability to do their job, interact with their troops, their ability to lead. If you think they need a little help with their PT step up and help them out.
Don't judge them for their shortcomings , unless you want them tolook at your shortcomings.
Believe me, we all have them.

Either as Enlisted or an Officer the only thing that ever pissed me off about it was when the officers (My Commander or otherwise) would coerce the NCO's into accepting bull shit push-ups. I spent 32 years on the Tank so you know Tankers are not known for being PT studs we would pass the test and just barely pass tape and that was good enough, as long as we could break track, lift road wheels and sling main gun rounds that's all that counted. However, when those one or two officers roll through that couldn't do push ups and everybody knew it and yet somehow their score always reflected 100 points, those guys I had no respect for. When I commissioned I never allowed anyone to pad my score under any circumstances. if I score a 225 then so-be-it.

I don't think that their PT test would influence my thoughts of them. As long as they pass their PT test is all I think about. Those Stud Muffin Commanders should really be taken out back and shot, because they think that everybody should be like them and that just is not the case. If you want to be a PT stud just remember that not everybody has that drive to be a PT stud and as long as they pass their PT Test then leave them alone and don't try to force them to do more. Those kind of Commanders make me sick, because then they look down on you and that should not be the way they look at us. Anyway as usual just my take on the matter.

I had 300 PFT scores for a long time, fastest time 3 miles 1705 humped no problem. Lead from the front. Got older bad knees and back, thanks to the Infantry maintained a high 1st class. Learned a lesson as long as you can be just as good or better than your Marines you are good. When on a forced march dont fall out. Bn run don't fall out. In the field don't fall out or complain. That is what sets you up for success doing what they are doing. They suffer in the rain you suffer also. On the aspect of failing if an officer, SNCO or NCO did fail don't need to lead it is a basic requirement just like riffle qual.

I would have to say that there is a difference in a young Company Commander and an older Battalion Commander that has several Combat Rotations under his belt and has been hurt several times or wounded. I admired the Young Officers that ran in front of the Company PT formation every morning but I served with Battalion and Brigade Commanders that had been in Vietnam like I had and had been beat up in endless Combat missions. Yes, youth must be served but it’s more important for an Officer to be able to Plan and execute that plan with with success and low casualty rate!

As long as the Cmdr shows an effort for the troops , I would grade the Cmdr and the Cmdr would pass

I only cared if they couldn't or wouldn't meet the PT requirement inasmuch as the standard is set for all to meet, including CO's. Shipboard CO's tend to be a bit older and for the most part, not in as physically in shape as they could be so I don't expect them to set the world on fire with their PT scores. It is a key leadership point that they get their butts out on the grinder and be visible doing the test.

My only goal was to beat the LT. My score went from average to exceptional as a benefit.