Posted on Jun 2, 2023
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This is just a research question because I couldn’t find a solid answer in the regs.
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SFC Michael Pearson
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Unless he's seriously fuyking up (I mean criminally) leave him alone, let the person retire. They serviced their time. Probably saw and experienced a lot of stuff.
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SSG Ronald Rollins
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My last Cdr tried this with me simply because he did not like me. He told me this when we were alone in the office. Told me hewould screw me out of my retirement. I had 23 years. Did not work out well for him. I am retired and rated 100% by VA. making more than I was on active duty!!
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1SG Mark Thompson
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Why are you researching a question of this nature unless this is your plan to destroy someone’s life after serving for 20 years with honor. This action that concerned with the question is a Department of the Army decision. Has this SM done something to you or is the SM just old and tired and ready to move on to the next chapter of his/her life. Have you thought about how this action will destroy not only the SM’s life what about their family? Why don’t you think about if the roles were reversed then what would you do. You must love making enemies for the rest of your life, cause if you what you are leaning towards GOOD LUCK. Does really bother you so much to actually do the right thing and be a good human being with compassion!
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MSgt Wes Tracy
MSgt Wes Tracy
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Several people seem ready to put Major Taylor down but perhaps he's looking for input and material to HELP a soldier in this position. Don't be so quick to judge.
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1SG Mark Thompson
1SG Mark Thompson
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Sorry if it sounds like that but, I witnessed a Battalion Commander sit on a E-6’s approved extension so he could retire but needed 6 months to reach his 20.
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SSG Tammy Joy Partridge
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Get an answer the from the command that approved the order. Start there.
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MSG Perm Medical Retired List
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It would be almost impossible, and why be a jerk just let the guy /girl retire, I don’t know the reason why you would want to do that to a person who served for 20 yrs. Food for thought if the person is a E7 or above you can’t all you can do is recommend to a higher authority then you it will take a full bird to it and still will have to go to the DOD because he/she is already approved for retirement
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COL Thomas McGrath
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If the soldier is retiring I’d leave him alone unless it’s criminal. Also don’t you get locked in at 18 years?
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Let the guy be RODE, turn in his papers, and let the system retire him.I watched Ring Knocking Prince Hall's do this time after time along with the Good Ol Boy network.
SFC Signals Acquisition/Exploitation Analyst
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Once you are 24 months from retirement, i.e. hit that mark loosely called asylum, it is pretty tough. Basically, short of anything that is a court martial offense the Soldier must be allowed to retire. Look up AR 635-200 which mentions 10 USC 1176. Hope this helps.
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SGT Joseph Dutton
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When one hits the 18th year mark and a approved retire date, let him/her ride it out and leave them alone. Unless they commit a crime IAW with the USMCJ or Civilian Law and found guilty loses his or her right to retire.
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TSgt Bruce Davis
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I would just venture to guess that someone would have to be VERY deserving to have this happen...

The Assistant Secretary of the Army (Manpower & Reserve Affairs) is the approval authority for involuntary separation of all Soldiers' with 18 or more years of active federal service. Policy for enlisted retirements and separations is Army Regulation (AR) 635-200 (Active Duty Enlisted Administrative Separations).

Separation of Soldiers with 18 or more years of service
Except when discharged pursuant to the approved sentence of a court-martial or for physical disability, any Soldier who has completed 18 or more years of active federal service will not be involuntarily discharged or released from active duty without approval from HQDA. These separation actions will be submitted to CDR, HRC, (AHRC-EPF-M), 1600 Spearhead Division Avenue, Dept 300, Fort Knox, KY 40122 for staffing to the approval authority. At a minimum the separation action must include:

Endorsement to this HQ
Separation notification to Soldier
Soldier's acknowledgment of notification and response
Board proceedings and decision
Any other supporting documents or evidence (i.e., NCOERs, UCMJ, counseling statements)
Medical/physical examination. In accordance with the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) of 2005, all Soldiers who are being processed for involuntary separation must receive a physical examination within 12 months of separation date.
DA Form 2339 (Application for Voluntary Retirement). For Soldiers who have completed 20 years of active federal service creditable towards retirement (IAW AR 635-200, paragraph 2-6b), retirement is not automatic; Soldiers must apply for retirement. If Soldier declines to apply for voluntary retirement then a statement to this effect must be included with the separation request.
Reduction order (IAW AR 635-200, paragraph 14-5d, "A Soldier convicted by a civil court or adjudged offender by civil court will be reduced or considered for reduction.")
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