Posted on Jun 16, 2021
How is this idiot still allowed to serve? Even if his days are numbered?
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This is about a prior commander (CW2) who happens to still be on our books. Little backstory, when this man took over our unit in 2017 I could see from day one he was “off” to say the least. During our initial interactions I could tell he just wasn’t right. He did and said a number of things I’ve never seen, heard or would have expected from a commander (19 years of this. I’ve been through a few). I attempted to bring these things up to higher and was basically just written off as the disgruntled 1SG who didn’t like his boss. They were right, I didn’t like him at all but I was concerned because he was just flat out bad for the unit. That was highlighted on an absolute sh*tshow of a deployment in 2019. We get back and he immediately changes his name to some off the wall BS. Goes on some near year long training with his civilian job (DoD). When he came back he disappeared for a few months. Turns out he had been pulled over because he was driving an unregistered vehicle with sovereign plates. He didn’t go to court. Bench warrant was issued. When they went to arrest him they noticed he was living within 500’ of a school which he is not allowed to do due to an aggravated sexual abuse of a minor charge that he pled guilty to in the 90’s. He spent nearly 80 days in jail. Mostly because he’d not cooperate and spew that sovereign crap in court and the judge would just send him right back. I honestly thought I’d never see him again. He showed up this past weekend to drill. Sovereign plates and everything. I was not at all kind to him. Basically told him that sovereign BS has absolutely no compatibility with military service and he’d better stay the hell away from my Soldiers and myself with a little rougher language. He told me I was being insubordinate. Told him I didn’t care and he could write me up. There’s also the fact that he sexually abused a minor. Why the hell is this man still allowed to continue serving in the military? Even for another day. He is an embodiment of conduct unbecoming. The FBI classifies the sovereign citizen movement as a domestic terrorist organization. Why isn’t he gone? The man is a flat-out nut as well. He legitimately believes he is the rightful owner of half of the state of Alabama and has filed paperwork to get it back. Hope none of you live there. You’ll owe him dues when he gets it…
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For those unfamiliar...
9 things to prepare for when encountering sovereign citizens
Sovereign citizens fancy themselves outside of the laws of the land and don’t recognize the legitimacy of the U.S. government
Here are nine indicators that you may be in contact with a sovereign citizen.
1. A sovereign citizen’s license plates are sometimes completely and obviously fraudulent. They may refer to the “republic” of a given state or have the word “sovereign” on the plate itself.
2. A Sovereign citizen may give you a pile of paperwork when simply prompted for a license. The paperwork is often totally unrelated to your request for identification. If they do give you identification, it may very well be fraudulent or from a place that doesn’t even exist. These documents are designed to frustrate, confuse, and most dangerously, distract you. You know what your state’s driver’s license looks like. You know what your state’s registration looks like. Don’t fall victim to this tactic.
3. A sovereign citizen may ask for your “Oath of Office.” Sovereigns believe an officer is required to carry a copy of the oath taken upon appointment to law enforcement. Obviously, this is not something most of us carry with us — nor is there any legal requirement to do so.
4. A sovereign citizen will not refer to their vehicle as a “vehicle.” They will refer to it as their “conveyance.” There are no legal requirements (registration, mechanical statues, insurance, etc.) for a conveyance. It is a shell game used to try and subvert the vehicle code.
5. A sovereign citizen doesn’t drive their vehicle. They “travel” in their “conveyance.” Again, this is a semantic attempt to avoid responsibility laid out in any given state’s vehicle code. If a person isn’t, in fact, “driving”, but rather “traveling”, how can a vehicle code apply?
6. A sovereign citizen may refer to the 14th Amendment or the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). Sovereign citizens believe the 14th Amendment caused Americans to become federal citizens instead of sovereign ones. The UCC was created to “harmonize the law of sales and other commercial transactions.” Sovereign citizens believe that once the United States adopted the 14th Amendment, it became a corporation and thus, the UCC (an oppressively convoluted document) is the effective law of the land.
7. A sovereign citizen may mention they “have no contract” with you and may refuse to sign a citation. Again, this goes back to the belief that the United States is a corporation and you are an agent of that corporation. Thus, according to the UCC, they are not beholden to you or the government.
8. If you are able to get them to sign a citation, the sovereign citizen may very well sign it, add “under duress” and include a UCC section.
9. After the stop, you may receive a bill for the time you have spent with the sovereign citizen. You may be aware of it and you may not. Sovereign citizens have been known to put liens on officers’ homes that go for months or years completely unbeknownst to the officer until he or she attempts to sell or refinance a home. This is known as "paper terrorism."
Conclusion
Many of these tactics used by sovereign citizens are designed to confuse and distract law enforcement. Don’t let a situation you are unfamiliar with throw you or, worse yet, distract you to the point where your focus is off the situation at hand. You own that stop — the driver and any occupants are yours until you make the decision to cut them loose. Cops get so caught up in the job with doing things fast. Much can be gained by slowing down, taking a breath, waiting for backup and doing one thing at a time.
https://www.police1.com/terrorism/articles/9-things-to-prepare-for-when-encountering-sovereign-citizens-TQEYub9k8X2xEPKq/
9 things to prepare for when encountering sovereign citizens
Sovereign citizens fancy themselves outside of the laws of the land and don’t recognize the legitimacy of the U.S. government
Here are nine indicators that you may be in contact with a sovereign citizen.
1. A sovereign citizen’s license plates are sometimes completely and obviously fraudulent. They may refer to the “republic” of a given state or have the word “sovereign” on the plate itself.
2. A Sovereign citizen may give you a pile of paperwork when simply prompted for a license. The paperwork is often totally unrelated to your request for identification. If they do give you identification, it may very well be fraudulent or from a place that doesn’t even exist. These documents are designed to frustrate, confuse, and most dangerously, distract you. You know what your state’s driver’s license looks like. You know what your state’s registration looks like. Don’t fall victim to this tactic.
3. A sovereign citizen may ask for your “Oath of Office.” Sovereigns believe an officer is required to carry a copy of the oath taken upon appointment to law enforcement. Obviously, this is not something most of us carry with us — nor is there any legal requirement to do so.
4. A sovereign citizen will not refer to their vehicle as a “vehicle.” They will refer to it as their “conveyance.” There are no legal requirements (registration, mechanical statues, insurance, etc.) for a conveyance. It is a shell game used to try and subvert the vehicle code.
5. A sovereign citizen doesn’t drive their vehicle. They “travel” in their “conveyance.” Again, this is a semantic attempt to avoid responsibility laid out in any given state’s vehicle code. If a person isn’t, in fact, “driving”, but rather “traveling”, how can a vehicle code apply?
6. A sovereign citizen may refer to the 14th Amendment or the Uniform Commercial Code (UCC). Sovereign citizens believe the 14th Amendment caused Americans to become federal citizens instead of sovereign ones. The UCC was created to “harmonize the law of sales and other commercial transactions.” Sovereign citizens believe that once the United States adopted the 14th Amendment, it became a corporation and thus, the UCC (an oppressively convoluted document) is the effective law of the land.
7. A sovereign citizen may mention they “have no contract” with you and may refuse to sign a citation. Again, this goes back to the belief that the United States is a corporation and you are an agent of that corporation. Thus, according to the UCC, they are not beholden to you or the government.
8. If you are able to get them to sign a citation, the sovereign citizen may very well sign it, add “under duress” and include a UCC section.
9. After the stop, you may receive a bill for the time you have spent with the sovereign citizen. You may be aware of it and you may not. Sovereign citizens have been known to put liens on officers’ homes that go for months or years completely unbeknownst to the officer until he or she attempts to sell or refinance a home. This is known as "paper terrorism."
Conclusion
Many of these tactics used by sovereign citizens are designed to confuse and distract law enforcement. Don’t let a situation you are unfamiliar with throw you or, worse yet, distract you to the point where your focus is off the situation at hand. You own that stop — the driver and any occupants are yours until you make the decision to cut them loose. Cops get so caught up in the job with doing things fast. Much can be gained by slowing down, taking a breath, waiting for backup and doing one thing at a time.
https://www.police1.com/terrorism/articles/9-things-to-prepare-for-when-encountering-sovereign-citizens-TQEYub9k8X2xEPKq/
9 things to prepare for when encountering sovereign citizens
Sovereign citizens fancy themselves outside of the laws of the land and don’t recognize the legitimacy of the U.S. government
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Sadly this is more common in the reserves and NG. Numbers tend to be short and so kicking someone get harder a harder. This was like active duty in 2006 to 2010 timeframe. Had guys busted for heroin that we had to fight to kick out as it was only his first offense.
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It is difficult to accept that this kind of person is allowed to wear even a Reserve or NG uniform. However, from personal experience many years ago (during my own enlisted years), I met a unit commander of a multi-service (all active duty) who behaved in such a manner. That guy was and Air Force Major and I only a Navy Petty Officer First Class (E-6). The unit commander was avoided by his officers and despised by his enlisteds. He ruled by fiat and crazy notions. Yes, it DOES happen.
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LCDR (Join to see) - Just before we arrived in Bosnia there was do this r there who was a complete mess. They guy wasn’t working in his area of expertise when called to active duty. He had a drug and alcohol problem. He wrote prescriptions for fictitious patients, he had exchanged water in water bottles for alcohol. At one point he got a uniform of another nation. Americans were confined to post. He used the uniform to go drinking with his foreign buddies. He was caught trying to get back on post. I have no idea what happened to the guy once he got back to stateside.
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