Posted on Feb 13, 2019
How long after a soldier gets to their new unit will they conduct a record height and weight on them?
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How long does a soldier have once they get to their new unit before the unit does a record height and weight on them?
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SSG(P) (Join to see)
So it isnt like the PT Test where they have to wait 90 days before conducting a record PT test?
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SSG(P) (Join to see) - Pretty much. As it is the Commander's Program, they can dictate anyone to be assessed any time they feel a Soldier does not present a Soldierly appearance. As such, with that same area of authority, they could easily have every new Soldier do a HT/WT as soon as they report in. But, it's pretty much driven by unit SOP. If the unit wants to give a Soldier 90 days, then 90 days it is. If they want to give a Soldier 14 days, then 14 days it is. This is due to the fact that APFT and HT/WT are two separate programs.
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CSM Tony Blair
It is normally 90 days, to give the SM time to get use to the new Duty station' they can give you a PT test but it should not count for record.
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A commander may administer an APFT and/or conduct a weigh-in the first day you arrive at a unit. This policy is in AR 350-1 and AR 600-9 (Below).
Commanders should provide newly assigned Soldiers, and those returning from extended deployments 90-days before administering a record APFT.
FM 7-22, 4-27, states, New Soldiers need to train in the unit for 90 days before PRT leaders or AIs assess the Soldiers' fitness levels. This timeframe allows them to acclimatize, assimilate into a unit PRT program, and adapt physiologically and psychologically. Note that the FM is doctrine, not policy.
FM 7-22 6-5. Prolonged Deployment. Soldiers need at least 90 days post-deployment to retrain and prepare for
the APFT or unit physical readiness goal. This is doctrine, and it is established in policy in AR 350-1.
AR 600-9. 2–14. Individuals.
Each Soldier (commissioned officer, warrant officer, and enlisted) is responsible for meeting the standards prescribed in this regulation.
AR 600-9. 2–16. Commanders and supervisors
Commanders and supervisors (Active Army and Reserve Component (RC)) will—
a. Implement the ABCP, to include evaluation of the military appearance of all Soldiers under their jurisdiction and
measurement of body fat as prescribed in this regulation.
b. Ensure the continued evaluation of all Soldiers under their command or supervision against the body fat standards
prescribed in this regulation.
AR 600-9. 3–4. Weigh-in and body fat assessment
a. Weigh-ins and body fat assessments will be conducted in accordance with appendix B. All Soldiers will be weighed every 6 months, at a minimum.
b. In order to ensure the ABCP does not interfere with Soldier performance on the APFT, commanders and supervisors are encouraged to allow a minimum of 7 days between APFT and weigh-in, if feasible. Some Soldiers that are close to exceeding the screening weight may attempt to lose weight quickly in the days leading up to a weigh-in. This practice may result in the Soldier being unable to perform his or her best on the APFT, if the two events are scheduled close together.
AR 350-1 F-5 . ...Accordingly, all Soldiers (RA and RC) must be able to pass the APFT at any time, except upon return from deployment. Soldiers will be administered a record APFT no earlier than 90 days following redeployment.
F-5 l. (1) Commanders may administer the APFT as often as they wish; however, they must specify beforehand when the
APFT is for record. RA and AGR Soldiers will take a record APFT twice each calendar year, all other USAR and ARNG Soldiers will take a record APFT annually. A minimum of 4 months will separate record tests for RA and AGR. The 4-month rule does not apply to Soldiers that must make-up a record test or retesting for an APFT failure.
Commanders should provide newly assigned Soldiers, and those returning from extended deployments 90-days before administering a record APFT.
FM 7-22, 4-27, states, New Soldiers need to train in the unit for 90 days before PRT leaders or AIs assess the Soldiers' fitness levels. This timeframe allows them to acclimatize, assimilate into a unit PRT program, and adapt physiologically and psychologically. Note that the FM is doctrine, not policy.
FM 7-22 6-5. Prolonged Deployment. Soldiers need at least 90 days post-deployment to retrain and prepare for
the APFT or unit physical readiness goal. This is doctrine, and it is established in policy in AR 350-1.
AR 600-9. 2–14. Individuals.
Each Soldier (commissioned officer, warrant officer, and enlisted) is responsible for meeting the standards prescribed in this regulation.
AR 600-9. 2–16. Commanders and supervisors
Commanders and supervisors (Active Army and Reserve Component (RC)) will—
a. Implement the ABCP, to include evaluation of the military appearance of all Soldiers under their jurisdiction and
measurement of body fat as prescribed in this regulation.
b. Ensure the continued evaluation of all Soldiers under their command or supervision against the body fat standards
prescribed in this regulation.
AR 600-9. 3–4. Weigh-in and body fat assessment
a. Weigh-ins and body fat assessments will be conducted in accordance with appendix B. All Soldiers will be weighed every 6 months, at a minimum.
b. In order to ensure the ABCP does not interfere with Soldier performance on the APFT, commanders and supervisors are encouraged to allow a minimum of 7 days between APFT and weigh-in, if feasible. Some Soldiers that are close to exceeding the screening weight may attempt to lose weight quickly in the days leading up to a weigh-in. This practice may result in the Soldier being unable to perform his or her best on the APFT, if the two events are scheduled close together.
AR 350-1 F-5 . ...Accordingly, all Soldiers (RA and RC) must be able to pass the APFT at any time, except upon return from deployment. Soldiers will be administered a record APFT no earlier than 90 days following redeployment.
F-5 l. (1) Commanders may administer the APFT as often as they wish; however, they must specify beforehand when the
APFT is for record. RA and AGR Soldiers will take a record APFT twice each calendar year, all other USAR and ARNG Soldiers will take a record APFT annually. A minimum of 4 months will separate record tests for RA and AGR. The 4-month rule does not apply to Soldiers that must make-up a record test or retesting for an APFT failure.
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