Posted on May 8, 2014
SSG Robert Burns
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Before the easy hard core answer of "JUST ONE!" think about it for a minute.
Think about all of the discussions we have had on here.
Saluting, hands in pockets, colors of socks, buttons buttoned, head gear at home, SHARP, thieves, late for work, 670-1 violations, vehicle inspections, inappropriate photos, etc.
EVERYTHING that we do wrong no matter how minor is a violation of some Army Value. For example putting your hands in your pockets would be an integrity issue. Getting a speeding ticket, integrity issues. Integrity is doing what's right legally and morally. I am positive that everyone who got a speeding ticket didn't get a NO block.
So what is the standard? Is it the severity of the violations? The volume of the violations? Who decides what is severe and what is not? Who decides how many times is too many? Do small violations give hint to a larger character flaw?
Have you ever tried to NO block someone and got severe push back from the NCO Support channel? Isn't it up to the rater?
At this day and age a NO block is your ticket out of the military. Can this be abused and taken advantage of by leaders?
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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Clearly each situation will have to be examined. A cookie cutter approach to this is wildly unrealistic.
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MSG Wade Huffman
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Agreed, situation dictates.
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1SG Mike Case
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I don't believe there is a set answer for that. I don't think one speeding would earn you a "no" for integrity. I don't think me telling you to take your hands out of your pockets will earn you a "no" in integrity. I think cheating on an APFT (taking a shortcut on a run and getting caught) will earn you a "no" on more than one. I think as the rater you must take each situation on merit alone and see how it fits.
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SSG Robert Burns
SSG Robert Burns
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I agree with you. How would you word that on a NCOER Support form?
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I would say that it should depend on the severity of the violation. The raters should have a working knowledge of the Soldiers character, professionalism and conduct and be able to determine if the issue is an isolated occurrence that can be mediated through counseling or a severe violation that warrants a "NO" according to the criteria on the Evaluation
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