Posted on Jul 26, 2018
How much trouble will I get into for getting caught with liquor at 20 yrs old?
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So I'm 20 years old and will be 21 in a few months
I recently had a surprise room inspection at 2200 on a weekend by my NCOIC of my section. On my dresser I had a small glass filled with whiskey and in the fridge i had one bud light , i also had 1 corona and 1 bud light can in the trash can , I was in my room alone and was not intoxicated ..my NCO made me dump the alcohol out and take my trash out he said i was honest so i was good but than the next day he told my platoon sgt and i got counseled for the incident.... what are the chances of me receiving an article 15 and or having to go to ASAP I'm asking because I'll be 21 soon and would like to drink with friends when that day comes but if I'm stuck in asap than it would ruin those chances , what do yall think???
I recently had a surprise room inspection at 2200 on a weekend by my NCOIC of my section. On my dresser I had a small glass filled with whiskey and in the fridge i had one bud light , i also had 1 corona and 1 bud light can in the trash can , I was in my room alone and was not intoxicated ..my NCO made me dump the alcohol out and take my trash out he said i was honest so i was good but than the next day he told my platoon sgt and i got counseled for the incident.... what are the chances of me receiving an article 15 and or having to go to ASAP I'm asking because I'll be 21 soon and would like to drink with friends when that day comes but if I'm stuck in asap than it would ruin those chances , what do yall think???
Article 15
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Substance Use
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SPC (Join to see) Take it from an OOOLLLDDD School SNCO, you are thinking WAAYY to hard about when and where your drinking can and will occur. I get a gut reaction that you may need some Alcohol education at the very least. Irrespective of any punishment or re-training that you may receive, alcohol should NOT occupy this much of your thinking. Now, to your questions: don't concern yourself about the punishment. You cannot stop or impact that decision in any way. You cast that lot when you decided to be a "minor in possession". What you need to keep in mind are two concepts that I always shared with my subordinates:
1. Live by the "don't be a dumbass rule", before you do anything ask yourself this questions: If I do this and it turns out wrong, will someone look at me and say "What a dumbass"? If the answer is anything less than "NO", don't do it.
2. Keep you mistake to learning ratio at a 1:1. 1 mistake equals 1 learning episode. All troops make mistakes. It is when it takes more than one occurrence of the mistake or a great number of occurrences of different mistakes before you learn a lesson, that your bosses will ALWAYS have a problem with you.
In closing, please take a HARD look at your drinking and get some education. I have seen far too many careers lost before they even started because of alcohol. It is NOT worth it.
1. Live by the "don't be a dumbass rule", before you do anything ask yourself this questions: If I do this and it turns out wrong, will someone look at me and say "What a dumbass"? If the answer is anything less than "NO", don't do it.
2. Keep you mistake to learning ratio at a 1:1. 1 mistake equals 1 learning episode. All troops make mistakes. It is when it takes more than one occurrence of the mistake or a great number of occurrences of different mistakes before you learn a lesson, that your bosses will ALWAYS have a problem with you.
In closing, please take a HARD look at your drinking and get some education. I have seen far too many careers lost before they even started because of alcohol. It is NOT worth it.
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Sgt Dale Briggs
Lol, don’t sweat it, the worst that was going to happen already has. But you need to be a bit more.... careful.... and not so obvious. Odds are it’ll be repeated once they know to look.
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The new military. (sigh) Glad I m NOT in it. I'd have told you not to be dumb, and keep it out of sight. But that's the old school talking. Now?? They'll probably Article 15 you, but if your a decent guy/good soldier and can get someone to speak for you as a mitigating factor at the hearing, you might be able to get a suspended punishment (be good for a certain time and then it gets tossed) You aren't doing anything millions of service members haven't done
You just have to be sneakier!!!
You just have to be sneakier!!!
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COL William Oseles
Given he has already been issued a Counseling Statement I find it unlikely it will go to an Article 15. The Counseling Statement will probably never come up again unless he does something stupid. The fact that the Platoon Sergeant issued a Counseling Statement rather than refer it to the commander should end the issue.
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I cannot wrap my head around being in the army and not being able to drink. Of course, I joined in 1979 and during those days, one could drink at age 18. Depriving a soldier of the privledges of getting pussy and alcohol is just wrong. In fact it is as wrong as two boys fucking in front of a Baptist Church at 11:00 am on Sunday morning.
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