Posted on Dec 1, 2013
How much weight do civilian employers/ potential employers place in the military evaluation system. In other words the NCOer?
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Pretty much none. I have worked in law enforcement and with a large retailer on the management team. At no point did an NCOER come up, nor did I supply it due to the lack of understanding what it really says. As stated a good resume speaks volumes about you. That should be your focus. I was a hiring manager and never cared to see one as often they may not reflect on that type of work.
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It's probably relevant if you are dealing directly with people who have served in the military, or if you are going to a civilian position that supports a military mission. Beyond that, I think there may be bad than good simply because people reviewing it would not have the necessary insight into how the military evaluation system works or be able to place things into the appropriate context.
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I don't know now they would ever see it, unless you provided it. I'd say you'd be better served learning to put together a more effective resume, which they WILL see.
Feel free to use your NCOER's as a guide to ensure you highlight all your major accomplishments, but just handing an employer your NCOER, to me, seems like an inability to accept that you are now a civilian, and are having difficulties making the transition. That would be a red flag for me in your prospective employers position.
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COL James Stevens Roach
Agreed, Michael - I have been retired for 18 years, have had five different jobs, and have never had anyone ask to see any of my military efficiency reports. I think you will confuse a prospective employer by trying to show him your NCOERs.
But I have also found that a resume without any personal endorsement from someone in the organization where you are applying for work - or an endorsement from someone known and trusted by that organization - doesn't have much chance to get you attention or get you hired. So stay in contact with friends that leave the service - and when you are getting ready to move back into the civilian word - let that network know that you are looking for employment. All of my jobs after retiring from Active Duty have come through people who could personally vouch for me…
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I had been asked for my NCOER's when I was contacted by military job placement firms such as Bradley-Morris, Lucas Group and Orion staffing.
Other than those job placement firms, no other civilian employers or staffing agencies will ask for these.
Other than those job placement firms, no other civilian employers or staffing agencies will ask for these.
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I suppose if you are going to be hired by a DOD contractor its good to have them as a record in case they want documentation to prove some specific items on your resume. I got hired by SAIC, they did not need my OPR's. I have heard some firms may want proof that what is in your resume is valid.
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Evals are (correction, CAN be) a good source for resume bullets, but other than that I've never seen any civilian employers actually ask for an eval. Exceptions of course being applications for military technician employment and, I seem to recall DIA accepting copies of my OPRs when I was applying for a civilian job with them.
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