Posted on Dec 31, 2015
How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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After the initial profane response,the officer should have called him to attention,locked his heals,and ordered him to remove his headgear....If there was any more disrespect or trouble he should have arrested him for insubordination ,disrespect to an officer and dishonoring the uniform! When you are in uniform you represent the Armed Forces and doing anything to dishonor that uniform is against regulations...
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No way. I remember walking into a building and forgetting my cover for about 2.5 seconds before I'm scrambling to snatch it off. You are reamed out enough in the beginning to never want to get caught with it on while inside. Having someone actually point it out would have any young soldier's guts in a knot at the terror that someone in rank saw it as well.
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
SPC Najla Switzer Excellent memory! I remember that as a Private too about 40 some years ago!
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SPC Najla Switzer
Yes, I am talking about service back in the late 70's and early 80's, not this "New Military" they have going now.
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Good job by Sgt.Maj. Blt. Office Hours for the young shit bird. Take a stripe and forefit 2/3 for one month.
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Lots of extra duty is in this young Marines future. He had NO reason disrespecting the JR Officer.
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As for the young "Marine's" punishment? I'd have him standing in front of AT LEAST the company CO in a heartbeat! As for the officer, he should never have let it escalate into a shouting match. If he cant handle one enlisted man, he shouldn't be an officer. As for the mom, I give her Kudos! HAHA
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As for the situation itself, if ANYONE corrects you on the wear of your uniform and you are in the wrong, you thank them and fix it. If you are NOT wrong, you take them aside and discuss the error. If it is YOU doing the correcting, you pull them aside and do it then, not publically. NEVER, no matter the ranks, would you act in the manner of ANY of those involved, except maybe the one breaking the confrontation up if it had become physical. Marines and soldiers are to be professional at all times in public {minus bars for Marines, HAHA} or they have no business wearing the uniform in my opinion, again regardless of their rank.
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I'd say his entire remaining career will be made up of extra duties. And was Air Force...
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Sounds like a kid wearing his daddy's uniform to me. The SGM handled the situation correctly. :)
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If your in the wrong and someone makes a correction it don't matter what rank they are fix the deficiency . Young marine is no match for a office right or Wong his mother is ill relevant in this situation
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