Posted on Dec 31, 2015
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?

NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!

RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?

THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015

CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."

I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks


If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"

RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.

A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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The SGM was the only one whom of which acted accordingly
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PO3 Machinery Technician
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1st mistake, putting on the cover inside. 2nd talking back to a junior officer. 3rd having mommy defend him. She is probably the one to blame for his attitude. Didnt ever teach his baby how to be a man much less how to be respectfull. The service will teach him what ever way the want. He chosed the service. HONOR, RESPECT, DEVOTION TO DUTY; USCG.
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Sgt Daniel Morrison
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Lmao, that young Marine is about to learn respect the hard way. That mother has to understand that her "boy" is the property of the Corps and as such subject to discipline Marine style. I wouldn't want to be that Marine.
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Shelia Easley
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I am a fairly new Marine mom. I can assure you, had my son ever had his cover on inside, it wouldn't have taken another Marine to rectify that situation. With that said, the mother should ever have stepped in. As far as the Marines shouting at each other over the cover, way out of line on both sides. The Sargent Major should NEVER had had to step into that situation. I promise you, had I seen this play out and heard that big burly voice, I might have hit the deck as well.
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PFC Sasha Carpenter
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Would correct the marine in the wrong the deal with the one who made the situation worse
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MAJ Richard Cheek
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Depends if the person was a recruit not a problem. If he/she was a Marine, no. When I was a Drill Sergeant in the Army I had a father get all mad that I was treating his son unfairly. I told him sir with all do respect you had him for 18 years and didn't do S**t for him. I want to make him an Infantryman. But if you want him back I'll expedite his discharge. Otherwise come back at 1630 he'll be done.
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Sgt Allen Brown
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NJP for the enlisted Marine for disrespect to an officer, charges of unbecoming of an officer to the young officer or a good talking to my his CO, and to the SgtMaj nothing you can not do anything to god (lower case g)
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Cpl David Braden
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He's a Marine!! Act like one, or you'll be treated like one!! We have a higher level of discipline that needs to be adhered to!!
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Sonja Jones
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If you can't follow the rules we can't trust him to have our six now can we?
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GySgt David Ellison
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Praise in public, discipline in private. Both the officer and the enlisted were wrong. SgtMaj did the right thing, mothers have no part in MC discipline and should stay quite.
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