Posted on Dec 31, 2015
How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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CPT Karen Nichols McAbee
exactly what I was thinking SSG(P) Juarez, otherwise he would have received more than enough attention already
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SSgt Donnavon Smith - ahhhhhh!!!!
You just had to go there didn't you? I've been nothing but complementary to the Corps, here and elsewhere. Your jibes have no power here!
I will fix what is ate up when I see it, regardless of branch of service.
You just had to go there didn't you? I've been nothing but complementary to the Corps, here and elsewhere. Your jibes have no power here!
I will fix what is ate up when I see it, regardless of branch of service.
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Sgt Matt Dean
No need to get in a branch war! We all serve a great country and I respect all military! We all have standards but I do know as for the corps you NEVER where your cover inside and never disrespect rank. That junior needs to be checked quick! Even if his mom was there, then she can understand what the corps is about! Oorah sgtmaj for respecting and keeping the traditions alive and real. I pray the corps is not getting soft
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Absolutely! When an officer, junior grade or not, approaches you and instructs you to remove your cover while indoors, YOU REMOVE YOUR COVER!!!!! The PVT was stupid enough to confront the officer and I am glad the Sergeant Major took matters into his own hands! I would have done the same.
HMC C. Schmidt
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I agree 100%.
I can't speak for other branches, but I can speak for Sailors. No one commands more respect from a new Sailor than the Chief. When Chief says something, it's done without hesitation. To this day, my Chief could yell "drop" and I'd be doing push ups before he could take a breath. It's all about respect.
I can't speak for other branches, but I can speak for Sailors. No one commands more respect from a new Sailor than the Chief. When Chief says something, it's done without hesitation. To this day, my Chief could yell "drop" and I'd be doing push ups before he could take a breath. It's all about respect.
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The young Marine was in the wrong period. No enlisted Marine green around the ears EVER engages a superior rank. Period. The Marine Corps isn't about playing games like other branches. If you don't get it, you're in the wrong branch. My Marine Corps was straight up "Full Metal Jacket" and should remain that way. It's called "discipline" and "respect" for the uniform, for the Corps and for Country.
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In my day it never would have gotten that far....another enlisted with several supporters would have squared you away, and the very last thing you would want to do is swear at an officer....oh, and your mom / family would have been counseled....... want to discus it further, let me know
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You don't wear a cover in a building. It's one of the rules you're taught in basic training or anyway it was in my company. Even before that my parents taught me it was a sign of disrespect to wear a hat in a building so it was just reinforcement in the service. You'd think the young marine would have known that like he knew not to wear his shirttail outside his pants. Above and beyond that you don't curse in front of a woman, especially not your mother and you sure as hell don't say F*** in front of her and it doesn't even matter if she uses the word herself. If it weren't handled in the manner that it was I'd have genuine concern over the state of our military.
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Hooraaahhhh Marine Corps!!
One thing I have always loved about the Corps....the senior enlisted have kept it the same for over 200 yrs. Poor approach by the JO. He should have bit his tongue....re-addressed the young snot nosed buck and pulled his ID card.
No peepee contest should have occurred. Way to go Sgt Major for diffusing the situation...and I can tell you that by now...that little E1 now nows what being a Marine is all about...since he slept thru boot camp.
CDR, USN, Ret.....FMF
One thing I have always loved about the Corps....the senior enlisted have kept it the same for over 200 yrs. Poor approach by the JO. He should have bit his tongue....re-addressed the young snot nosed buck and pulled his ID card.
No peepee contest should have occurred. Way to go Sgt Major for diffusing the situation...and I can tell you that by now...that little E1 now nows what being a Marine is all about...since he slept thru boot camp.
CDR, USN, Ret.....FMF
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Embarrassing a 'cub' in front of the mama is almost as painful as embarrassing the Corp...
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First thing that comes to my mind, did the young officer identify himself? Although it shouldn't matter, when correcting another marine, one should always start with identifying them self. this could have saved the embarrassment of both individuals having their asses handed to them by the csm..... Just a thought..
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Cpl Kenny Woods
Well gunny... This is why it's never safe to ASSume...Apparently the young enlisted and the young officer learned that lesson together...
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Cpl Cary Cartter
If a civilian can tell the difference in ranks from more than a few steps away, then both parties IN the incident are very much aware of the ranks involved. That is, my ASSUMPTION here is that both parties were, in fact, in uniform and displayed their rank appropriately.
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