Posted on Dec 31, 2015
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?

NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!

RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?

THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015

CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."

I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks


If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"

RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.

A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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Sgt SHF Satellite Communications Operator-Maintainer
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To answer the question how it could've been handled properly the fucking boot who put his cover on inside could've never done for one two he could've listened to the devil dog who told him to remove it or three get blasted by a SGTMAJ lmao
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Sgt SHF Satellite Communications Operator-Maintainer
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The one wearing the cover yes especially if the young dude that told him first was a officer he can be charged but in today MC nothing will happen outside the ass chewing he got .
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Thst young Marine was DEAD WRONG. No 2 ways about it. From the second he put thst cover on indoors to the second he cussed at and profaned a commissioned officer, he was wrong. I could juat about give 2 rips about the surroundings or situation. He put himself there. I back the officer all the way. A Sgt or Staff Sergeant should have snatched this little dirtbag out of line (right in front of his [mommy] and everybody else, took him outside and out of sight then commence to thrashing him for 30 minutes. I see this type of disciplinary issue far too often in young service members. They think they are entitled to do whatever, with no consequence and the world owes them everything. Think again, genius.
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TSgt Edward Wells
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I spent 26 years in the AF and regardless of the Branch of service, respect for an Officer is paramount. It makes no difference where this would happen, the young Marine showed a lack of respect, not only toward the Officer but also his mother and those who were close enough to hear the altercation. He was asked to remove his cover and whether it be by an NCO or Officer, anyone in the Military knows the regs. The young Marine caused an otherwise simple request to escalate into something far worse because of his lack of respect. Extra duty? You bet!
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Col David Cooper
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I would have asked jr officer if I could ask him a dicreet lopw level question. Sir you are covered and then back to rigid attention
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Jason Thornton
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your CO should get in trouble for wearing his cover too it should a apply for everyone i dont care if you are a 5 star gen.
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Jason Thornton No disagreement there!
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CMDCM Mike Cisneros
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There's a proper place and time for disciplining subordinates. Perhaps it should have been a different approach yet still getting to the point without going ballistic.
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CMDCM Mike Cisneros
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There's a proper place and time for disciplining subordinates. Perhaps it should have been a different approach yet still getting to the point without going ballistic.
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Cpl Jessica Woodland
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this is an odd story for sure. I second that all Marine's know we do not wear a cover indoors unless we are under arms. We surely wouldn't desecrate our uniforms or disrespect a brother in a public place. this being an army soldier on a Marine Base and getting mouthy, yeah I can believe that. or any other branch of service even. A Marine officer, not quick to back down especially if someone says who the f** are you.... they'll be like "let me introduce myself. I'm captain stf by" ... I do 100% believe a Sgt Major witnessing any Marine or service member making an ass of themselves and behaving in a fashion conduct unbecoming... would remove the 2 of them from that situation.. the mother should stay the hell out of affairs. Unless of course she wants to join our ranks... then she can stf by too.
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PO2 Brian Sharkey
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It's the corps, they live by rules and it takes tough individuals to enforce those rules, this is not a kiddie camp for mommas boys who think they can break those rules whenever they feel like. Green Lives Matter. Your heart and sole may belong to god but your ass belongs to the corps. Snap to Marine and clean the shit out your headgear!
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