Posted on Dec 31, 2015
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?

NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!

RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?

THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015

CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."

I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks


If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"

RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.

A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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AN Kevin Grandjean
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The officer was out of line, least he could of handled it with a bit more discretion and professionalism.
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SFC Jerry McDonald
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the SgtMaj handled it right he too the pvt and kelp it calm and toned down the whole thing and protected the famlies
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Thomas Nye
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Perhaps the officer should have defused the situation, what with the parent present, and then have the enlisted mans NCO take it from there?
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CPL Motor Transport Operator
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military minded heros know covers off on covered area, if they forget code word is covers of hero and drive on
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we have to take care of each other
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Sgt John Keogh
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I can not respond for other services, but, USAF, you took off your cover, unless you were responding as a Security Policeman on a call.
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Sgt Richard Hill
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I know how it would have been handled when I was in back in 1969. The SgtMaj would have knocked it off his head.
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Sgt Mervyn Russell
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The young Marine was wrong and should have been given an ass chewing and taken on a five mile hike with full field pack and if that does not correct the situation add another ten miles. This would have never taken place 50 years ago when I was in the Marine Corps.
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Gena Riley
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You don't wear your cover in a building. You don't wear your cover in a building. If you can't focus enough to remove your cover in a store, you won't be focused enough to keep from blowing the covers of many brothers during war.
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MGySgt Albert Harvick
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The Marine and the officer were both wrong. The SgtMaj handled the situation properly with the exception of not getting the officer's name.
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SR Chris Campbell
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The uniform is the first thing that you are taught... If you can't get it right that means you don't respect yourself or the unform
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