Posted on Dec 31, 2015
How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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Disrespected a commissioned officer...not in my house. He deserved it, and will probably be in a bit of a fix after his unit finds out.
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THIS IS OUR CORPS, WHEN HE SIGNED THE CONTRACT, HIS ASS BELONGS TO THE MARINES. THEIR ARE RULES AND REGULATIONS OF THE MILITARY JUSTICE , THIS MARINE MUST ABIDE BY. IF HE REFUSES, HE WILL PAY FOR IT.HE SHOULD OF ALSO KEPT HIS BEARING, AND NOT DISRESPECTED THE OFFICER THAT CORRECTED HIM.PARENTS, IF YOU SEE THIS HAPPENING YOU MUST NOT, AND CANNOT DO A THING. LIKE I SAID, HIS ASS BELONGS TO THE CORPS. SEMPER FI, SSGT.RAMIREZ F.
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That's some funny stuff right there. Thanks for the chuckle.
So reading this story how many other here have seen some truly stupid / insane moments in their careers?
The best I can think of for this Enlisted / Officer moments was a SGT Slingblade (name withheld to protect the guilty lol) and ENS imabouttodie. We are out training for an IA, while doing reflex fire ENS weapon keeps jamming. Well he keeps trying to unjam it without taking a knee, and SGT keeps screaming at him to take a knee,
Knee / unjam / stand up / shot /jam / screaming / knee / unjam / stand /… repeat.
So after about 4 or 5 of these cycles SGT screams for a cease fire and safe. He get in this ENS face and starts screaming at him
SGT “Where the F-ck are you going?
ENS ‘I’m going to Iraq!” (think happy gomer pile type attitude on that comment)
SGT “take a f-cking body bag because you’re going to f-cking die” you are going to die.. do you hear me (he is standing in front of the ENS holding on to the front his armor vest screaming at him)
At this point some other DI’s come running up and we see the SGT has hives popping out all over his face, they tell him take the next two days off and go home before he kills the ENS or has a heart attack.
It was bad but dam if it wasn’t funny.
So reading this story how many other here have seen some truly stupid / insane moments in their careers?
The best I can think of for this Enlisted / Officer moments was a SGT Slingblade (name withheld to protect the guilty lol) and ENS imabouttodie. We are out training for an IA, while doing reflex fire ENS weapon keeps jamming. Well he keeps trying to unjam it without taking a knee, and SGT keeps screaming at him to take a knee,
Knee / unjam / stand up / shot /jam / screaming / knee / unjam / stand /… repeat.
So after about 4 or 5 of these cycles SGT screams for a cease fire and safe. He get in this ENS face and starts screaming at him
SGT “Where the F-ck are you going?
ENS ‘I’m going to Iraq!” (think happy gomer pile type attitude on that comment)
SGT “take a f-cking body bag because you’re going to f-cking die” you are going to die.. do you hear me (he is standing in front of the ENS holding on to the front his armor vest screaming at him)
At this point some other DI’s come running up and we see the SGT has hives popping out all over his face, they tell him take the next two days off and go home before he kills the ENS or has a heart attack.
It was bad but dam if it wasn’t funny.
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You follow orders period. Though he might have had his duty belt on. You follow orders.! I suspect he'll get 4 weeks of 2 hours on watch followed by 2 hours off then 2 hours on, 2 hours off till he admits to his mistake of not following orders.
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Public hamiliation in the way to go. Should have just pulled the marine in question and told him to remove his cover.
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Of it happened then the Sr. NCO was right, the Jr. Officer was obviously an ROTC grad rather than an Annapolis Acadamy Grad and the recruit needed his ass kicked and the mother needed to assist in the ass kicking or leave.
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I disagree with majority of people that say they were both in the wrong. The junior officer initially saw something that should've been corrected. Regardless of rank, the individual should've taken his hat off and that being the end of it. You don't need to "approach him secretively" to tell him to remove his hat. Give me a break. That's the problem these days. People are too sensitive and it's making us look pathetic.
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