Posted on Dec 31, 2015
How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
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How should a situation in the MCX about wearing a cover in the building be handled properly?
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
NEITHER MYSELF OR MY WIFE ARE IN THE HABIT OF TELLING A LIE OR MAKING UP A STORY - IT HAPPENED! FOCUS ON THE QUESTION - NOT WETHER YOU BELIEVE THE INCIDENT HAPPENED OR NOT!
RP Members was this handled properly by the Junior Officer, SgtMaj, or the mother? What would you have done?
THIS WAS A REAL SITUATION THAT TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY 12/30/2015
CORRECTION: I've receive collaboration from another lady who also had firsthand knowledge of this incident in the MCX - "The "youth" was not an AD USMC, but part of a group of Young Marines. Her description of this group is that it is one for troubled youth to attempt to instill discipline and maybe bring them into the fold."
I apologize to all of those individuals that I stood firm on with, that it was young Marine Private (based on all the information I received), but the discussion, question, and feedback on how the situation was handled by the Junior Officer, Sgt Mgr, and Mother have been outstanding - that I don't apologize for - thanks
If anything, I thoroughly enjoyed the story and my wife called me at home immediately following the incident - she knew I would enjoy hearing about it. I just said, "that SgtMaj owns that young Marine!"
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young "Youth" Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by a AD Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young "Youth" Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young "Youth" Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to my wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young "Youth" Marine the by collar escorting him and the Junior Officer out of the MCX with the Young "Youth" Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
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I need to read a full accounting of exactly what happened before I will state an opinion. All I saw was a short come-on to this site, and then this page. would someone direct me to the "full story?"
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COL Mikel J. Burroughs
Maj Jeff Moss Here you go and the story is legitimate - I've never posted something that isn't true. Looking forward to your experience with these type of issues or how you think it could have been handled better - thanks
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by another Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to the wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young Marine the by collar escorting him out of the MCX with the Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
Any extra duty in this Marine's future?
RP Members this one comes from the wife that works at Camp Pendleton, CA Marine Base in the MCX.
A young Marine was in the check-out line with his mother and "CORRECTION" (put his cover on inside!) He was approached by another Marine (Junior Officer) and asked to remove the cover. Immediately the young Marine took up the defensive and asked the junior officer "who the F*** are you?" The Junior Officer then got into the young Marine's face and told him to have some respect and remove the cover - it escalated into a shouting match in the check-out line in the MCX. Coming from the back of the store there was a loud roar from a Sergeant Major in the Marines (built like a tank according to the wife). He bellowed, "both of you shut your mouth there are families in here!" The MCX went silent and several employees and Marines hit the deck (no kidding). The SgtMaj came to the front and grabbed the young Marine the by collar escorting him out of the MCX with the Marine's mother yelling, "don't touch my boy!"
Any extra duty in this Marine's future?
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The correction was well deserved. The original infraction of the cover is/was minor, and a verbal correction was warranted. Once the "young Marine" started to yell and curse at the officer an article
15 is totally in order. That being said I also feel the officer could have handled it in a more professional manner.
15 is totally in order. That being said I also feel the officer could have handled it in a more professional manner.
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I think this may be indicative of an even more deeply-rooted problem which involves how young people are raised these days. Just my 2-bits. Respect seems to be turning into a foreign word these days.
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SarMajor owns the prive... Should have a word with the Nugget's commander as well.
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The Marine was wrong. Inside the cover stays off. He was even more wrong for not resecting an officer.
The officer made the situation worse. He should have got the Marine's name and unit and brought the matter of the disrepect to the Marine's CO.
Had the officer maintained his composure, the SGM would not have had to intervene and the Marine would have received NJP.
As for the SGM, he did good.
The officer made the situation worse. He should have got the Marine's name and unit and brought the matter of the disrepect to the Marine's CO.
Had the officer maintained his composure, the SGM would not have had to intervene and the Marine would have received NJP.
As for the SGM, he did good.
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Ooohhhhh is he going to be sorry. When you're corrected you fix yourself.
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