Posted on Apr 6, 2018
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So I have always cut my hair the same way which is combed over on the top and faded on the sides and is in regs. Well I had my NCOIC (SSG) tell me that it wasn't in regs. and that he didn't like the way it appeared. I cut it a little shorter on the top and when to my TL (SGT) and she agreed that there is nothing wrong with it. That SSG told me I had to have a meeting with him and the 1SG but the 1SG never came, it was just myself and the SSG again. He told me again how it wasn't within regs. and looks like I'm a rebel. Few days later, (last night) I saw that SSG and before I could even say hello her said, "Take your hat off, let me see your hair." I showed him and he said, "You better fix it by tomorrow or else you know what'll happen." (He wants my to get a basic training cut) Now today, my TL (SGT) just came into my office and said that I have to go see that SSG at 1500 and that he refused to tell her what it was about. I know it'll be about my hair again. My SGT told me to tell him that I understand that it's his opinion that he doesn't like it but I would like to get a second look by the 1SG before I shave my head. Can any Senior Leaders help me on this one? I'm not just some Joe trying to start problems. I'm squared away, show up to work on time, have no negative counselings, and to top it off...The 1SG saw my hair the same way when I first met him and he said, "Look at Pavlock, his hair is always on point!" Someone please give me some advice!
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SSG Brian Carpenter
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Use the open door policy and go see the 1SG with your SGT so as not to appear jumping the COC
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SrA Joseph Saul Steward
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Hey guys just checking in. Have a blessed day.
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CSM Patrick Durr
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Get a haircut that doesn't skirt the regs so there won't be a revolving issue with that Staff Sergeant (not E6, that's a pay grade). Sometimes haircuts are in the eye of the inspector. If it looks faddish to your squad leader, that's his assessment. To get out from under this issue, I highly doubt he's asking you to get a basic training haircut. His standard lies somewhere in between. By the way...a SSG doesn't refuse to tell a SGT anything. He/she simply chooses not to. Remember rank structure.
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Capt Michael Brown
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Cut your hair PFC Pavlock. There is probably more to this story which your SSG would probably fill us in on. If there isn't more to the story you will have shorter hair.
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PFC Michael Pavlock after reading your original and updated post I came into a conclusion that you are doing the right thing and have been respectful at all times. I noticed that you had a meeting with your acting Platoon sergeant one-on-one which I believe is wrong as a whole. You need to always be with your TL,SL or a with a battle talking to your TL,SL.
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SFC James Pritchert
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Your hair is fine but you are not going to win on this one. Your SSG does not like you and until one of you rotates out of the unit, things are not going to change. When your hair becomes closest to your SSG's standards, they will choose another issue. I have seen this a million times.
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PO3 John Faria
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I when in the Navy had my hair cut at the barber shop in the Base or the ship I was on. So that never was an issue with me. From reading your post, apparently an issue came up and there is your point of view, and those others involved.Ounce this starts happening both sides begin a campaign of wills VS regulations. I don't tell you what to do, but get a hair cut that satisfies those others, after you get out them nobody will give the regulations bit. It is up to you to keep up your difference with those individuals or follow their instructions. It will affect your evaluations too. It is what I call a pissing game. Good Luck.
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LCpl Terry Robertson
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It it is within regs.....well he can eat a dick. If the 1SG says it's in regs then it's in reg. The fool is just harrassing you and trying to intimidate you. Both of which he can get his ass in trouble over.
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Cpl Matt Pursell
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Here's the thing...You are a PFC...He is a SSgt. Cut your damn hair, it doesn't matter if you think you're right, a SNCO told you to cut your hair. End of discussion.
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SPC Rob Lewis
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My advice is to just let it go and cut your hair.
1. It’s just hair, you are in the army
2. You’re a private vs. a SSG ( you will lose)
3. You don’t want to get labeled as a blue falcon or problem child.
I had a similar issue back in the 80’s when I was active. Had an E-6 (that would probably never get promoted beyond E-6), who would make up regs. On the fly. All of us just had to shut up and deal with it until we/or he rotated back stateside. Just kept my hair high and tight until I PCS’ed back stateside.
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