Posted on Sep 30, 2019
How should I handle an officer having confiscated my firearms from a trusted person while I have been deployed?
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Hello,
I am currently deployed. Prior to my departure, I handed my firearms to a trusted person (same batallion, different company) in addition to the registration for general caretaking and use at the private weapons range.
A few months without incident go by until the XO of the SMs company orders their immediate storage and surrendering of the weapons registration to his control. People who were there said the XO “wanted to have a talk” and “wanted to send a message to me”. The XO and the commander have refused to move the weapons to my company’s arms room and has failed to produce a 2062 or any sort of document declaring the company’s possession of my private weapons.
I suspect the XO is using his possession of my weapons registration to gain leverage to facilitate an interaction that he, frankly, has made himself involved in for unclear reasons. I have two questions:
1.) Is this something that should be handled between company leadership? What can be done to gain possession of my property once I return?
and
2.) if not, is this an issue that should be brought to the attention of my posts Legal detachment?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
V/R
I am currently deployed. Prior to my departure, I handed my firearms to a trusted person (same batallion, different company) in addition to the registration for general caretaking and use at the private weapons range.
A few months without incident go by until the XO of the SMs company orders their immediate storage and surrendering of the weapons registration to his control. People who were there said the XO “wanted to have a talk” and “wanted to send a message to me”. The XO and the commander have refused to move the weapons to my company’s arms room and has failed to produce a 2062 or any sort of document declaring the company’s possession of my private weapons.
I suspect the XO is using his possession of my weapons registration to gain leverage to facilitate an interaction that he, frankly, has made himself involved in for unclear reasons. I have two questions:
1.) Is this something that should be handled between company leadership? What can be done to gain possession of my property once I return?
and
2.) if not, is this an issue that should be brought to the attention of my posts Legal detachment?
Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
V/R
Posted 5 y ago
Responses: 10
The problem here is that you handed your firearms to someone else. Yes, you gave them the registration, however, those weapons are not registered to them. With that said, the command can keep them in their arms room and they do not have to show you a 2062 simply because they do not answer to a SPC, regardless of the situation. ---They are supposed to provide you one, but the feeling here is that they won't because they feel the above; not owing you anything----
You need to run this through legal and get advice from them on how to handle it, or better yet, go to YOUR chain of command and have them handle it at their level on your behalf. Running it head on by yourself to another company's command team is highly discouraged and will escalate things.
You need to run this through legal and get advice from them on how to handle it, or better yet, go to YOUR chain of command and have them handle it at their level on your behalf. Running it head on by yourself to another company's command team is highly discouraged and will escalate things.
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MAJ Byron Oyler
SFC Thomas Foreman - I think the difference here in answers is you are a leader and take care of people, not everyone is that way. If a private comes to me and asks for help, I would stop what I was doing and help them.
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SFC Thomas Foreman - It wasn't meant to be snarky whatsoever, the feeling I'm getting here based on his description of the situation and how the other CoC is going about it is a "I don't owe you anything" type of scenario.
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MAJ Byron Oyler - I agree. Unfortunately we still have those leaders who take advantage of the soldiers when the ball is in their court and they hold something of value to them. Unless there is underlining information not being mentioned here, I feel like its a "power" situation
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LTC Gary Earls
SSG Fletcher, I agree with you. Go to the chain of command and see if they can handle the situation. If not, then see the JAG folks.
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I agree with SSG Steven Fletcher. For myself, I do nearly everything through legal counsel in civilian life. Issues take a while, but with proper representation you're free to carry on with your daily routine.
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