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How should the situation of Stolen Valor be handled? What is a fair punishment?
I believe if you have the guts to pretend that you were this or that in the military then you should have to serve!
I believe if you have the guts to pretend that you were this or that in the military then you should have to serve!
Stolen Valor
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I am sick of th stolen valor police. Every mess kit repair specialist now is an expert on awards and decorations. Be careful when you point because 4 fingers are pointing back.
This crap started when a bunch of no dick REMFs had nothing better to do.
This crap started when a bunch of no dick REMFs had nothing better to do.
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PO3 Danielle Sandlin
You know to be honest I wasn't even referring to Active Duty when I wrote the post. I was referring to those civilians who are walking around in full navy uniform with and army cap and insignia and marine rank on their uniform with an airforce name tape.....
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PO1 John Miller
LTC Bink Romanick
I agree to a point. However, there is a difference between a veteran who has forgotten every little detail on how to properly wear their uniform and awards, to outright stolen valor. I always advise to tread carefully. Ask questions but be respectful. If their answers don't make sense or are just so outrageous that they can't be anything other than complete bullshit, by all means call their asses out.
I agree to a point. However, there is a difference between a veteran who has forgotten every little detail on how to properly wear their uniform and awards, to outright stolen valor. I always advise to tread carefully. Ask questions but be respectful. If their answers don't make sense or are just so outrageous that they can't be anything other than complete bullshit, by all means call their asses out.
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PO3 Danielle Sandlin It's kind of an unfair question, after all stolen valor comes in many forms......
A civilian who claims to have done military service, I believe that you are right on target. Let them spend 2 or 3 years in those "imaginary" combat boots.
When dealing with Military members who overstate their awards , or Military affiliations then we wind up on a slippery slope. Do we punish those who served for trying to impress a group in a bar, or at a party? I have been in many a Military bar and heard many claims from Military members meant to impress the impressionable. Is that stolen valor? And, does it become more important when such a person tries to further present himself to a community as an award recipient to which he has no claim. The question has to be, where do we draw the line?
Of course, those who falsify records to obtain benefits to which they would not otherwise be entitled, they are already covered under the law of the land.
There is no pat answer. There is no easy answer. What is sure is that before you accuse anyone of stolen valor you better have proof, and you better have ALL your ducks in a row. Your mistake could cost a Soldier, or even a bonafide hero a lifetime of true Military accomplishments.
A civilian who claims to have done military service, I believe that you are right on target. Let them spend 2 or 3 years in those "imaginary" combat boots.
When dealing with Military members who overstate their awards , or Military affiliations then we wind up on a slippery slope. Do we punish those who served for trying to impress a group in a bar, or at a party? I have been in many a Military bar and heard many claims from Military members meant to impress the impressionable. Is that stolen valor? And, does it become more important when such a person tries to further present himself to a community as an award recipient to which he has no claim. The question has to be, where do we draw the line?
Of course, those who falsify records to obtain benefits to which they would not otherwise be entitled, they are already covered under the law of the land.
There is no pat answer. There is no easy answer. What is sure is that before you accuse anyone of stolen valor you better have proof, and you better have ALL your ducks in a row. Your mistake could cost a Soldier, or even a bonafide hero a lifetime of true Military accomplishments.
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PO3 Danielle Sandlin
You're absolutely right there is no right or wrong answer. I just think something needs to be done to stop it though. I was just curious what everyone else thought. Thank you for your input.
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PVT Robert Gresham
PO3 Danielle Sandlin - It's covered pretty often on RP. This has been my most detailed dissertation, however. I've just heard so many stories ..... it's really hard to know what's the best course of action.
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PO3 Danielle Sandlin That's an interesting concept, PO3, enlisting the liars. Problem is that you then have a liar enlisted, so I dunno. Maybe instead make them serve on mess lines or something.
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PO3 Danielle Sandlin
SN Greg Wright It may be enough to make them want to get right. Someone mentioned pushing them through boot and if they excel, show improvement and honor, and actually want to serve for real then let them. To an extent I agree.
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PO3 Danielle Sandlin
Maybe sending them through boot would be a great punishment anyways..marine boot. Haha! SN Greg Wright
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We had a guy try that in a unit I was in. We had a company formation. The 1SG called him to the front, cut off his patches and smoked him in front of the everyone while telling everyone that he lied about his awards. I thought it was fair. After all he wanted attention and he got it.
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PO3 Danielle Sandlin
Something definitely has to be done, I wish I knew why people lied. Thanks for your comment! :-)
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