Posted on May 12, 2016
How should we deal with an ROTC Cadet committing Stolen Valor?
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I'm a student at a decently sized college in Maryland.
This post is about a drunken kid who was wandering around the local bars telling everyone is a 2LT in the USMC who has deployed 2x to Iraq. He does this pretty regularly unfortunately. He is actually a CDT in the schools Army ROTC program. He is making an ass of himself and making the program look bad.
How do I handle this? Simply call him out next time? Report to Cadre?
As far as I know, no other CDTs are aware he is doing this, and neither is the Cadre, or they'd hop on him faster than thought. Thanks in advance for advice everyone.
And before anyone says it - yes, I appreciate the irony in a CDT managing to commit Stolen Valor. What also blows my mind is his claiming to be a Marine officer while training to become and Army officer.
This post is about a drunken kid who was wandering around the local bars telling everyone is a 2LT in the USMC who has deployed 2x to Iraq. He does this pretty regularly unfortunately. He is actually a CDT in the schools Army ROTC program. He is making an ass of himself and making the program look bad.
How do I handle this? Simply call him out next time? Report to Cadre?
As far as I know, no other CDTs are aware he is doing this, and neither is the Cadre, or they'd hop on him faster than thought. Thanks in advance for advice everyone.
And before anyone says it - yes, I appreciate the irony in a CDT managing to commit Stolen Valor. What also blows my mind is his claiming to be a Marine officer while training to become and Army officer.
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He is violating ethics and the honor code and could be booted from the program. The code states you must report misbehavior to your chain of command.
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Report him to you Cadet
CoC and Cadre. First off, he maybe, but doubtful, telling the truth. I don’t know if the Marines have done any battlefield commissions. Remember, 1LT Audi Murphy was going to be a West Point Cadet, but his wounds made him ineligible. He may be an MS 1 or 2 and nothing can be done but ruin his chance to become a MS 3. If he is a MS 3 or 4 he may counseled up to kicked out of ROTC and entering service as A PVT or PFC.
CoC and Cadre. First off, he maybe, but doubtful, telling the truth. I don’t know if the Marines have done any battlefield commissions. Remember, 1LT Audi Murphy was going to be a West Point Cadet, but his wounds made him ineligible. He may be an MS 1 or 2 and nothing can be done but ruin his chance to become a MS 3. If he is a MS 3 or 4 he may counseled up to kicked out of ROTC and entering service as A PVT or PFC.
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First, is he prior service?
If not, instead of going to the PMSL you may want to discuss your concerns about him going around drinking in uniform, don't have to mention that he was drunk or bragging about being a combat vet.
If not, instead of going to the PMSL you may want to discuss your concerns about him going around drinking in uniform, don't have to mention that he was drunk or bragging about being a combat vet.
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The closest my cadet friends get to stolen valor is we joke amongst ourselves about going on an AD deployment (through CULP). We also whisper stolen valor to any kids wearing camo stuff around school.
I would definitely sit this fellow of yours down for a nice chat and tell him to unfuck himself. Personally, I'd see if he makes these claims again and then report officially, but I don't know what regulation would demand.
I would definitely sit this fellow of yours down for a nice chat and tell him to unfuck himself. Personally, I'd see if he makes these claims again and then report officially, but I don't know what regulation would demand.
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1) Turn him in to cadre, make sure you have proof though.
2) If that doesn't work, throat punch is good.
He doesn't deserve to be in the military, let alone an officer.
2) If that doesn't work, throat punch is good.
He doesn't deserve to be in the military, let alone an officer.
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If you can get a video of it. then turn it over to the Cadre . let them handle it . for me it`s like cheating on a test . that I'm not found of drunks .
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