Posted on Apr 6, 2015
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Currently I am researching a possible transfer to the USAR from the ARNG and am interested in the experiences of others regarding this topic.

For those who have done this: how has the process worked, be it a conditional release or transfer to the IRR->4187->TPU. Are there any tips or possible pitfalls I should be aware of?

Post transfer, are you glad you made the decision?
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LTC Jon Bateman
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It is important for you to know that this is not viewed as a transfer, but a release and a new enlistment. If you are receiving any kind of VA benefits that are contingent on you being in a unit, these benefits will go into turmoil while all the paperwork gets sorted out. Finally, it is very important that you receive a copy of your NGB points record and monitor your points after the transfer. If your points are hosed up, at least you have the document to get them corrected. Good luck!
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LTC Michael Hrycak
LTC Michael Hrycak
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I transferred from ARNG to USAR after returning from Iraq and finding out that I was double slotted, and not getting paid for the drill that I used to re-register into the Guard. My retirement points record is still not properly updated, now partially my fault since I did keep a copy of my Guard record. I was glad that the USAR allowed me another mobilization opportunity to train Soldiers for deployment. The Guard attitude toward deployed Soldiers needs to be examined and changed. I was the MRO (Mobilization Readiness Officer) prior to being mobilized the first of three times, and I know that regulations prohibit double-slotting. I will one day get my revenge. In the meantime, I wish those that have benefited from the move good luck in their future careers.
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LTC Bryan Wood
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Best move I ever made. I was in the Utah Army National Guard as a 31A. The only 31A slots were in the MEB. I needed S-3 and XO time to be able to make O-5. The number of 01A S-3 or XO slots available to me were very limited and I would be competing with a state full of Arty, Intel, Eng and SF officers. I made the switch in 2013 and I have already been a BN 3 and XO and now I am on the DIV staff. For me as an officer it was the best move. I get $300 in travel reimbursement for my air fare because I drill more than 100 miles from my home and I get Lodging in Kind so lodging costs me nothing. I have to pay for my meals anyway so I am not out a thing. For me it was a success.
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LTC Bryan Wood
LTC Bryan Wood
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We never had it when I was in the Guard either. I think it is just a Reserve thing. Like I said, you get $300 for travel in whatever form that takes, plane, train or automobile. After you drill, you get a copy of a letter that your CO signs saying you live more than 100 miles away. You get a copy of the sign in roster that shows you signed in. Then you go into DTS and create a local travel voucher. You upload those supporting documents along with your receipts for the plane ticket, gas, etc. and you are good to go. And of course Lodging in Kind is normal. I tell the S-4 I need lodging for the next months drill and they take care of the rest. I can travel to drill for nothing more than the cost of food which I pay any way. Another thing to keep in mind is that if you drill more than 100 miles away, any travel costs you incur that are not reimbursed are tax deductible and it comes off your earned income dollar for dollar and not a percentage. It has worked out great for me. I could not be happier.
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CPT Patrick M.
CPT Patrick M.
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The Guard won't do it b/c there is a HIGH likelihood that you can drill within a reasonable distance from your house. The reserves do because you have less control (feasibly) of your career location. I remember USAR drilling with people from all over the US. In the NGAR, I drill with only 3 people that travel from out of state and only a handful from outside of a couple hundred miles (aviators). But, the NGAR policy is more or less that if you don't want to travel, change MOS or branch.
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COL Business Development
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Until recently the Guard units I was assigned to did pay for hotel rooms for Soldiers >50 miles away but due to budget constraints that has stopped. I now share a room with a fellow officer on drill weekend. Not a lot of $$ but still an expense.
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CSM Christopher St. Cyr
CSM Christopher St. Cyr
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IDT lodging seems to have have more to do with how the commanders want to spend their money more than whether it is allowed. The Air Guard has done it for years. When the state wanted more movement in the enlisted ranks it started to offer it, but at LTC Groton noted, with current budget constraints, the program is still authorized, but unfunded which mean the Soldier is paying. Unfortunately, there are zero E-9 slots or Field Grade slots more than 100 miles from the capital, so if you want the rank, you will have to travel. Even E-8 slots are slim, I think there is one maybe two.
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LTC John Shaw
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Be careful before you transfer, you may have state tuition or other state benefits you are depending on that you will LOSE when you transfer to the Reserve system.

I transferred from the KYNG to the Army Reserve in 1990 because my job took me out of KY, I spent my last 25 years in the Army Reserve and enjoy it as well. What I love about the KY Guard is the pride of a state organization and the emphasis traditional combat arms units and functions. What I love about the Army Reserve is the ability to advance into more promotional opportunities in combat support and movement between major commands much more easily done than in the Guard system.

I summarize it as the Guard is best when you are early in your career and the Reserves mid and late career. Research your decision and check with the local Reserve recruiting command to make sure the Reserve system has open slots in your MOS. If you are combat arms, the Reserve system has very few.
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