Posted on Mar 1, 2014
How well an MBA can help military members transition to a civilian career? Does an MBA need to be from a "top 10" school?
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Great question Skip. I think the curriculum and professors have everything to do with how well the MBA sets you up for transition. Military members have a wealth of management and operational examples to lend MBA classrooms. I've heard many professors say how much they enjoy hearing these stories. I think the more 'real world' applications and trending technologies that are discussed in class, the more value added the program is overall. Taking business models from actual companies of various sizes and studying their strengths/weaknesses (while building your own) were some of my favorite ways to learn how the civilian world operates.
On the prestige end, you know I work around 99% Ivy Leaguers and have to say they are some of the brightest and most successful vets I've ever met. My plan has always been to get smarter by being in the same room ;) In all seriousness, the networking that is fostered at many top tier universities is awesome. I've seen it from afar and can say I'm definitely envious. If you can build your own network of successful professionals, that can be just as helpful. For those shopping around for MBAs, I suggest looking hard at Universities with outstanding veteran alumni communities. This can be tremendously helpful for the transition as well.
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I think having an MBA has significant potential to help military members transition to a civilian career. I also think the same is true for any graduate level degree. Education is a life-long process and it is important to realize that many civilian employers require degrees. When so many people, both Soldiers and civilians, have bachelor's degrees, the competition can be fierce. Doing anything to set yourself apart will help out. At least, that is what I am 'banking' on. I am 1/3 complete with my MBA, but I am also considering whether I should start looking at DBA or PhD in Business programs.

I don't think that having a top 10 school is necessarily the most important thing in the world. It might help, but I think the more important thing to consider is that the school is appropriately accredited. Accreditation ensures academic consistency. Sure, graduating from Harvard Business might look good on a resume, experience plays a big part in it.
Ultimately, I think the first thing that service members need to realize when transitioning out of the military is that they are competing with everyone else for jobs. Just because a newly retired veteran has 20+ years of military experience, that experience often times does not equate to corporate experience. It will them a step above civilian counterparts who just graduated college without any experience. There are many articles out there that talk about this topic, but I really liked the following:
Just because you have the skills and experience for a position, that doesn’t mean you’ll get it. Avoid these mistakes to make sure you don’t sabotage your chanc
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SPC Maurice Dawson, D.Sc.
Great share on the article! I was always a reservists and enlisted my entire duration. My civilian career has went well such as senior level management and engineering roles. My civilian career was very different than my military career goals. My first graduate degree with was not a MBA but a MS that has served me well in my professional career in cyber security and program management. Later in my career I was advised to pursue a MBA before I switched careers to become a professor/researcher. I read you are looking or thinking about doctoral programs. It is extremely important to seek a respected program. Another item is you have to heavily publish research as that is what makes one researcher/doctor different than another. If your goal is not to become a researcher then a doctoral degree may not be necessary. Only to complete a doctoral program to call yourself Dr. is not going to be enough to motivate through the years of painful research. As I have sat on many doctoral dissertations I can tell you that this three year process is gruesome. Also the average time for completing a doctoral degree is 5 years. See sites below if are truly interested in entering academia or become a researchers as I can provides lots of guidance and insight.


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As a civilian I can not answer the first part of your question adequately. However, more education will never hurt your job opportunities. But remember many employers are valuing experience more and more. As far as selection of school. School can matter but it has played less and less of a role in hiring decisions. Many employers seek the most qualified person for the job regardless of the school they went to. Try and choose a school with good alumni connections because they will connect you with jobs. Be sure to make good connections with your professors as their advice and references can be invaluable.
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My office hires recent Masters graduates. We have a job announcements periodically just for recent graduates. We don't care much about the school a as we do the degree. We look for business degrees especially in economics and accounting as we do a lot of financial reviews and economic analysis of business plans.
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From my vantage point and speaking with hiring managers across multiple industries, performance and results matter the most, regardless of military or civilian experience. "Show me what you did" means quantifying your achievements numerically. While veterans do not necessarily have P&L responsibility, managing equipment, inventories, and budgets can be translated to a civilian employer. Most hiring managers (that I've spoken with, I'm certainly not speaking for all of them) say that at best the MBA is a tie-breaker between candidates.
From a networking perspective, the MBA can assist with some of that, but as more and more veterans join the work force and through the use of LinkedIn and organizations like American Corporate Partners, the networking piece can be enhanced.
The MBA can be a great tool to learn more about the business world, but it won't teach you everything. Most veterans performed in roles that they had little to no training for, but they were expected to lean forward, figure things out, and execute. Those skills can't be taught in a classroom and are very valuable to employers.
The MBA is also very expensive and an investment that should be carefully studied. It is not essential to career success, there are many paths to general management and the c-suite that do not require an MBA. I don't necessarily agree with all of the points in this article, but it does provide some food for thought: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB [login to see] [login to see] [login to see] [login to see] .
From a networking perspective, the MBA can assist with some of that, but as more and more veterans join the work force and through the use of LinkedIn and organizations like American Corporate Partners, the networking piece can be enhanced.
The MBA can be a great tool to learn more about the business world, but it won't teach you everything. Most veterans performed in roles that they had little to no training for, but they were expected to lean forward, figure things out, and execute. Those skills can't be taught in a classroom and are very valuable to employers.
The MBA is also very expensive and an investment that should be carefully studied. It is not essential to career success, there are many paths to general management and the c-suite that do not require an MBA. I don't necessarily agree with all of the points in this article, but it does provide some food for thought: http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB [login to see] [login to see] [login to see] [login to see] .
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I've been in the private sector since 96. I coach folks who are getting out for business careers that they should pursue an MBA at the highest ranked program they get accepted to... and can afford.
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I agree with you Craig. I was going to seek to further my education after leaving a company that I had some longevity with. I found that it would be of little benefit to me in this stage of the game. I would have to depend on my past experience and knowledge to capture the position I am presently in.
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