Posted on Jun 5, 2023
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I was doing field rotation that had open showers and had a thought about Transgender personell and how the be treated by other personell. I talked to a female an she said she upset if transwomen in her shower if they still had there male genitals. I asked a male the same thing and he said he wouldn't care. He said "If they identify as a man I will treat them like a man". How would you personally feel about this.

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Obsession with other people’s bodies, be they cis or trans has no place. If someone wears the uniform, they deserve respect and dignity without exception. Honestly this question made me recall the shower scene in the movie “Starship Troopers” where males, females and J would assume trans soldiers showered together and it just wasn’t an issue. I know that that was a Hollywood movie, but based on the experience of repealing DADT where almost none of the fears people had about gay and lesbian soldiers showering with straight soldiers came to pass, I believe this would be the same.

Nobody should care what kind of primary or secondary sex characteristics a soldier has, and hopefully someday all of this prudish restroom obsession will be as much of a non-issue as racially integrated units (and by extension restrooms and showers) are today.
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prudish? You make a comparison of a mental illness to race and gender?
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SPC Marcel Hager
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Sounds like the LTC here has been fully indoctrinated into the Obama/Biden operation to undermine, demoralize, weaken and destroy the integrity of the U.S. military.

Are you just angling to make General and need to keep that nose brown for the promotion?
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1SG Harold Piet
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I would prefer that the Army not allow transgender in the service, but that is my opinion. But since they do- I think they should go to private latrines such as at home, a single person with a lock on the door. If not then they need to just remove the signs and let everything go free. Maybe label the latrines, Penis, or Vagina, and if you have that body part you use that latrine.
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1SG Harold Piet
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SFC Kelly Fuerhoff - yes, the rest of the family uses it, that is what I meant by private latrine, you go in, lock the door, do your business, and leave , next person.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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There is NO door on a latrine. GI's dig a ditch and that's the toilet for everyone. What you are recommending is that the Army/Marines bring portable toilets like those at an outdoor concert to a battlefield which may be in a jungle. After being used it's called a "BURN PIT" to kill all the germs, bacteria, diseases, etc. Where would you find plumbing? How about water? Is the Army/Marines now going to issue toilet paper in combat? This discussion is childish because civilians are recommending digging a male latrine and a separate one for females. LOL.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
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Imagine, if you will, that ALL SHOWERS are open. and ALL PERSONNEL REGARDLESS OF GENDER use them at any and all times. Male and female members are in "the full Monty" (as it were), for as long as it takes for each member to accomplish their bodily washing tasks. It is not sexual; it is simply the necessary configuration for that kind of hygiene.

That is how it is, even today, with openly gay personnel in the military. I am not expressing criticism; I am simply stating the facts. The sexual tension that would exist with traditional mixed-gender (M/F) showering exists TODAY with openly gay personnel in open showers with personnel who are not gay.

If this gets your attention, then note that trans-genderism will sharply accelerate this.

BTW: If you would like to see a taste of this, go see the movie "Starship Troopers." (Also, BTW, I am in it: Third blur from the top, "Football" scene). (Another BTW: I am NOT recommending that movie.)
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I LOVED that movie! It was campy science fiction and fun.
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Lt Col Timothy Cassidy-Curtis
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CPT (Join to see) - Campy science fiction was not Paul Verhoeven's intent.
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Sgt Matthew Ota
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I think all of military installations should do away with communal or open showers. That would solve any issues.
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Remember that there is no exception of privacy in the military. Never has been
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Are the branches of the U.S. military now "accepting" transgendered soldiers, sailors, airmen, and marines? What about those who are transitioning? At what point are these transgendered?
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SMSgt Bob W.
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This is simple-install a shower curtain.
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they are and private lockable toilet stalls...
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SPC Marcel Hager
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Transgender people should not be allowed to enlist in the military for any reason.

Firstly we know most of them are just doing it to get surgeries paid for, and after which they are completely useless as a soldier for an extended period. And for what? What operational or strategic value do they provide? Absolutely ZERO.

Secondly, they are a massive drain on resources, cause damage to unit cohesion, and have all kinds of medical issues that cause them to not be deployable to areas that don’t provide the services they need. Again, what advantage do they provide the military? NONE, ZERO, in fact it’s worse than that, it’s an actual detriment.

Thirdly, and not even remotely last, the military should not be the testing grounds for a bunch of leftist social experimentation.

The military bars people from entry for 100s of different reasons, and transgender, being a mental disorder should ABSOLUTELY be on that list.
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SGT Brian “Doc” Burry
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If a Trans wants to be in the Uniformed Services then expect everything to be uniform. If that is a problem, then that is too bad.
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SGT Linda Burgess
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As long as they need hormones they will always be non-deployable. Relying on medication to maintain health is not conducive to reliability in deployment situations
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1SG John Millan
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Transgender is a mental disorder. It is a service disqualifying condition, like diabetes, flat feet, poor vision. It’s in the past. Move past this disastrous policy, that promoted pointless weird vs. combat readiness.
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