Posted on Jun 5, 2023
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I was doing field rotation that had open showers and had a thought about Transgender personell and how the be treated by other personell. I talked to a female an she said she upset if transwomen in her shower if they still had there male genitals. I asked a male the same thing and he said he wouldn't care. He said "If they identify as a man I will treat them like a man". How would you personally feel about this.

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SGT Erick Holmes
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I would assume that all branches would have a seperate shower or certain times that transgender Soldiers would utilize the showers. I mean who knows. Its tough
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I don't know, but the very first month I took company command a soldier in my unit came into my office and said, hello, I'm pre transition..............

The very next month we had a field exercise and the Battalion CO (the property book owner of the showers) was going to park herself in front of the showers to prevent everyone and anyone from going in there while the transgender soldier was in the shower. I'm sure COL's and GEN's would heed the LTC's career advice and just let the situation happen and move forward with the exercise. I agree, this is not a long term answer. This was the tip of the spear dealing with this new atmosphere.

DEERs is the final authority as far as I'm aware, and the soldier was originally female transitioning into male.

In this situation showers times would have been blocked off to get around the regs and a LTC was going to be the gate keeper to enforce actions that ensured a drama free career moving forward.

Realistically speaking the USAR officers (to include myself as the soldier in question company commander) attached to the potential CNN/MSNBC/FOX headline were just trying to get through the end of the day.

End result was Trump became president the solder hit ETS, and didn't reenlist, and was out before the field exercise. So everyone dodged a potential bullet.

The soldier, originally being female, and already having trouble passing the APFT as female with hormonal assistance wasn't looking to be in a good position when DEER's changed the gender to male when it came to the ACFT.

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Finally, we all know how long it takes ETS orders to be cut when USAR soldiers want out at the end of their contracts.

Welp.................. On a Monday, I submitted three ETS packets from my company command, and to include the transgender soldier in question. Orders were published and in my mil mail account the following Tuesday for the separation for all three of those packets.

The transgender soldier was in no way treated differently than any other soldier. However, all ETS packets were signed, approved and published lickity split that specific day.

The USAR is a very low bar performance wise, and we did lose a soldier that kept green across the board, showed up at the right time in the right uniform, and was always dependable to execute tasks that needed to be executed. They had numerous vehicles on their military driver's license so unit readiness and capability technically went down when they decided not to re-enlist.
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SGT Air Defense Radar Repairer
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Unless things have changed field showers were frigging cold and no one stood around looking at anyone. You were lucky to have 3 minutes to shower. It boiled down to this: Get in there. Get wet. Then get out of my shower.
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PFC Kevin Adrian
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They shouldn’t be in the military to begin with males females no damn transgender.
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SP5 Delphis Kaczowski
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In Nam the guys gave "Blanket Parties" after taps to "fubars".
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SFC Robert Walton
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What ever you have between your legs is what you shower as.
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SFC Frederick Dalton
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Transgender Soldiers won’t be a problem. There won’t be any.
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SPC Daniel Brown
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Easy answer if the person in question has an Appendage then the shower with the men. Doing otherwise would disrupt the born female Armed services member. Or they just have open showers and Everyone showers together.
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SGT Daniel Myers
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Honestly, I don't think anyone having a pre-existing mental health condition should be allowed to serve in any capacity in any of our armed forces. Furthermore, I believe it's inherently wrong to allow these type of people in and burden the American people with paying for their transition. I know that when the rubber meets the road, I don't want anyone behind me full of meds and confused with a full magazine with a weapon capable of full auto. I need someone who can always have their head in the game at all times. And I don't care how advanced we think we've become, mixed showers, (male/female), is inherently a dangerous idea and just begs for trouble. Sexual crimes against both heterosexual, homosexual, and trans individuals will rise exponentially.
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MSgt Michael Long
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Just know, I'm retired so what I say is just an opinion.

I feel if you have male sexual organs, you will shower and be housed with the males.
That would be the easiest resolution, and what I would've expected.
It's not discriminating, just common sense.
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