Posted on Oct 13, 2017
PO1 Leading Petty Officer (Lpo)
58.8K
1.29K
444
152
152
0
86a486c1
It's 1800 and you just get off work. You let your subordinates go at 1600. You text them reminding them of a personnel inspection tomorrow morning. Your E4 tells you that they "don't need to deal with you outside of working hours" and not to "contact them outside of 0600-1600".

How do you handle this?
Avatar_feed
Responses: 297
SCPO Jason McLaughlin
130
130
0
This seems like a perfect opportunity for 8 hours of EMI (Extra Military Instruction). I do believe that mustering with the OOD at 1700, 1800, 1900, 2000, 2100, and 2145 (right before taps), in a different uniform, for 4 days straight, might teach the individual what defines working hours, and proper interaction with seniors.
(130)
Comment
(0)
SFC Thomas Stonebraker
SFC Thomas Stonebraker
3 mo
I like that!
(1)
Reply
(0)
PO1 J R Foster
PO1 J R Foster
1 mo
Things like this, I think, require a personal involvement. These are all great responses, but I would probably stay late with him a few days in a row and personally see to it that he helped me on some work that needed done. I’d coordinate it with my Chief to keep him/her in the loop so that when that third class whined to the Chief about me, they immediately got no shoulder to cry on. After a couple days, sit him down and ask him if he’s getting it, then explain to him the differences, like LCDR pointed out, that this is not civilian life and disrespectful things won’t be tolerated. Leadership takes personal involvement and sometimes personal sacrifice, but that is where you will see the best results.
(0)
Reply
(0)
Sgt Robert Gardner
Sgt Robert Gardner
1 mo
When you're in the service you're on the job 24/7 like it or not, that's what you signed up for and that's what you get. The only way around not getting contacted is to have no cell phone or computer, not many people like that these days.
(0)
Reply
(0)
CDR Don Wicklund
CDR Don Wicklund
17 d
Having a conversation with the individual would be the place to start. Not sure of his pay grade (E-3?). Maybe there was something going on when you contacted him. Marriage, child, 2nd job? I know it was not uncommon in the enlisted part of my career for many of us to have 2nd jobs. Before you put down the hammer, how difficult would a 5 minute conversation be?
(0)
Reply
(0)
Avatar_small
SFC Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
98
98
0
I'd respond to this, but then words like "premeditated" would start getting thrown around in court.
(98)
Comment
(0)
SFC Counterintelligence (CI) Agent
SFC (Join to see)
7 mo
I'm clearly making a joke about murder here. Jesus. LOL
(14)
Reply
(0)
LCpl Steve Smith
LCpl Steve Smith
2 mo
lol
(1)
Reply
(0)
MSG GregoryT Majewski
MSG GregoryT Majewski
1 mo
In my day you were on call 2,4,7. I know things change, but this kind of mindset does not mix if and when we are called to defend. I can just see this troop getting an Article 15.
(2)
Reply
(0)
SFC Airborne Instructor (Ai)
SFC (Join to see)
5 d
MSG GregoryT Majewski Still are, MSG. I would recommend SM for a little extra duty (14 days if it’s the first offense) through UCMJ Art:91 (insubordinate conduct) while explaining that we are SMs 24/7 until we get that DD-214.
(2)
Reply
(0)
Avatar_small
SFC Career Counselor
77
77
0
I would put them on duty from 0400-0000 to see how they like those working hours.
(77)
Comment
(0)
PO2 Anthony Burton
PO2 Anthony Burton
6 mo
Didn’t know the military was a nine to five,it wasn’t when I served anyway.
(13)
Reply
(0)
Sgt Margot Gall
Sgt Margot Gall
6 mo
lol!!
(4)
Reply
(0)
SGT Avionic Mechanic
SGT (Join to see)
5 mo
All you would have to do is, tell them you carry about them and their families well-being 24/7. And, if a problem arouses, they can come to them after hours. Reverse it and put them in your shoes to walk a mile. Then, their eyes will be open. Because, if you give them extra duty 1) you have to be there which takes time from your family and 2) they won't learn anything and have a negative perspect as a future leader 3) to which the cycle will continue and multiple effecting the entire Armed Forces decreasing mission readiness.
(3)
Reply
(0)
CPO David Ransom
CPO David Ransom
5 mo
"Good news people, we're moving to half-days." "We're getting off at noon?" "Pssst, there's 24 hours in a full day, dummy."
(6)
Reply
(0)
Avatar_small
Cancel
close
Seg?add=7750261&t=2