Posted on Nov 19, 2016
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What would you do, if a passenger in first class "boo'd" a Gold Star family for being allowed to leave the aircraft first to receive their fallen son/daughter in the military?
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SPC Lorrita Morgan
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You can't fix stupid. Fortunately, it seems to be largely self-correcting. Unfortunately, the correction doesn't always occur before they breed.

I like the idea of adding names to the no-fly list. Since these idiots were traveling first class, they might suffer from affluenza. A dose of something that throwing piles of money at can't instantly fix might (probably won't) teach them a bit of patience and respect.
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SPC Lorrita Morgan Great comment!
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
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If I were in a first class seat and my plane was already late and I would miss my connection or contacts that are very important, I would be quite angry. But, if the captain said this family would be departed first--- ENOUGH SAID. If he had a reason--or no reason--he is the person of authority. How many times were we given orders and did not even question them. Respect for authority folks. The people in first class could/should have asked the flight stewards why and if they did not know, ask the Captain.
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PO3 Al Fan
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I believe the Captain does announce that a fallen hero has been travelling with the flight and his/her family will depart first so that they meet their loved one on the ramp.
In some cases there may even be a life or death situation and a passenger needs to get off first to meet an ambulance and receive emergency life support.
Anyone in any class seat should respect either situation.
I have a personal opinions usually spill out of my mouth in situations when people are rude and uncaring to others.
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PO2 Robin Tellez/Walters
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I have no idea, being prior service I will never understand a reaction like this ever. Unless you have served I feel you have no idea what being in the Military means, I know because I served for 7 years in the worlds finest Navy. Just respect what we all do and keep your boos to yourself, until you lose a loved one in the Military, you have no say in ANYTHING, period.
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SPC Bobby Morton
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Not sure... Something along the lines of "HOW DARE YOU DISRESPECT THE FALLEN FOR THIS COUNTRY!" &/or, "SHUT THE FUCK UP OR I'LL SHUT YOU THE FUCK UP!" maybe both...
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SSG Eric Blue
SSG Eric Blue
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I like your second response better. But both are good.
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SSG Eric Blue
SSG Eric Blue
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Knowing my crazy self, I'd have probably backed you up on the flight as well.
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1LT William Clardy
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Purely hypothetically, I might be tempted to move forward to the first-class section where I would take up a protective position to ensure nobody attempted to harm those wonderful people for practicing their free-speech skills. I would then advise the booers that it would be best for their personal security that they stay seated until everybody had exited the aircraft, to avoid any untoward confrontations in the aisle. And if they expressed any displeasure with my active concern for their safety, I would advise them that any threat to force their way past me would constitute misdemeanor assault, and any actual attempt to lay hands on me would constitute battery which I would feel obliged to defend myself against.
But that's all purely hypothetical speculation as to what I might do, so no reader of this response should take this as any indicator of premeditation or prior intent regarding my actions should such a a hypothetical situation confront me.
Addendum: The same hypothetical reasoning would apply regardless of whether the deceased had been in the military. Common courtesy still has a place in society.
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CPL Glynnda White
CPL Glynnda White
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Not to mention the last minute leg thrown out from my seat into the aisle just as they are walking by over which they trip....I would profusely apologize of course, for about 15 minutes.....
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Marlene Hessler
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I cannot think of a response sufficient to deal with such disrespect of the people that fought and gave their all that a moron gets to live FREE and make such a fool of themself.
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Marlene Hessler
Marlene Hessler
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I was in a situation where my daughter had died in another state. I was there to 'bring her home for burial' and her 4 and 5 year old children. There was a bit of numbness and yet a need to function for the kids. The stewardess was impatient as the kids didn't know what they wanted for breakfast and she was demanding I 'had to know what they wanted'. I responded that I really didn't as I hadn't seen them for a few months and their mom had died. She was in a casket in the underbelly. The stewardess had an abrupt change of attitude.

I would imagine it was somewhat the same for the family in this case, but it has nothing to do with the callous stupidity, ignorance of the rude passengers. Life has a way of bringing payback.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
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SFC William Stephens A. Jr., - with better language, which shows more class.
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MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
MSgt Marvin Kinderknecht
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Marlene Hessler - Marlene, I fell sorry for your loss. A lot of people do not show respect out of ignorance. However, the last person who knew EVERY THING, left this earth over 2000 years ago. While I was at Ton Sun Nut on the Tarmak waiting for our relief aircraft, another plane pulled in and they were TROWING body bags off of the back ramp. All I could say was--I hope they are not ours. That has been over 50 years ago. ( Yeh, I am old) It still haunts me today. That night I got so drunk but, I could not shake the image. Live is a bitch and then you die. Nuff said.
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Marlene Hessler
Marlene Hessler
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I feel your pain. The only time a body bag should be thrown is when it is empty.

You are absolutely right about the last person all knowing. We are all subject to not measuring up to that standard.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. Many from my hometown unfortunately came back in those bags. My family was lucky. My brother and brother in law came home safely. Changed forever, but safe. Brother in law died 3 years ago from lung cancer possibly due to agent orange.
Wish you happiness and health. You deserve both.
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SGT David A. 'Cowboy' Groth
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Ask the people what they would do if it was their relative, son or daughter and people did the same to them?
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SGT Robert K.
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I'm sorry sir, it appears your baggage was misdirected.....
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Cpl Justin Goolsby
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I might be thrown off the plane for punching the person, but more importantly, I would try to be there for the family. They are in emotional distress at the moment and being heckled could be the last step that puts them over the edge. So I would try to be there for them to comfort them. Suicide is a problem in our community. I couldn't risk family members following their deceased into the grave because of a couple disrespectful shits.
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SPC Jerry Crain
SPC Jerry Crain
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I would be right there with you.
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SPC Carlos R.
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I would have given them my first class seat. I don't know what I would say to the person being disrespectful but it would not be pretty.
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SFC Michael Hasbun
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*Insert hundreds of internet tough guy answers*
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SGT Justin Anderson
SGT Justin Anderson
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I'm sure some us walk the walk as well.
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