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I was DA selected for recruiting in 2012, recruited from 2012 to 2015, then left AD. First a disclaimer. Recruiting is different everywhere, command has a lot to do with it, as does the demographics of your area. I'll start with the good. No field, no CQ/SD, no deployments. You will go home every night (maybe not at a reasonable time, but you will). You work out in the community, plenty of opportunities to help people, plenty of opportunity to network (great if you are planning to get out). Now for the bad. No Soldiers to train or mentor. (Recruits make up for this in a sense, but not really.) In recruiting, literally the only thing that matters is numbers. Your success, NCOERS and quality of life depends on numbers, not just your own, but the entire station and to a lesser extent, the company and BN. Never have I seen so many "leaders" forget the Army values and NCO creed in pursuit of the all mighty mission. I have seen literal felony level fraud be swept under the rug and condoned. Never have I been so pressured (overtly and otherwise) to forsake my integrity for the sake of getting a contract. 79Rs seem to often forget that the kids we put in will go to war alongside our brothers and sisters, and don't care what kind of trash gets in, as long as they make their mission. Lastly, it doesn't matter what you do, if someone doesn't sign, or signs and then becomes disqualified or backs out, it is always your fault, and a direct reflection of your failings as a person, Soldier and NCO. The job is physically easy, but very stressful and emotionally draining. Ultimately, my time in recruiting made me question my commitment to the Army...
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SFC Randy Fogel
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SFC Randy Fogel - Also got my Ring in less than 36 months. Additionally the Recruiter for the 11th SFG(A) and did 2 AT/FLINTLOC with them. Pushed ROTC Advanced Camp at Riley in an Affiliation Program. Battalion Bicentennial Winner. Only Enlisted (only) Member of the West Point Officers Club (across the street from me at STAS). A lot more in my 7 1/2 years recruiting. Got divorced and an MSM.
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SSG Robert Pratt
SSG Robert Pratt
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It's about being a high pressure salesman trying to sell something the customer can't test drive or try first. All that matters is numbers and if you have someone for the next month and your station or company is short they want you to push push push. You are a hero one month and then the next month you are a low life scum. Hartford Company, New Haven Bn
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1SG Terry Folsom
1SG Terry Folsom
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Well, said. Just one further suggestion. Ask your local Army Substance Abuse rep which assignments produce the most recruits for their programs, Army wide, back in the day they were recruiters and FT Huachuca AZ. There must be reasons for that.
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SFC Derrick Graves - at the time I was there and until I left, they had converted too many 5s, so points to make 6 were up in the 700-798 range, the same as the rest of the army.
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CW2 Ernest Krutzsch
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I was a Recruiter in 1980 to 1982, One month I was asked to put more people in than my quota, as the District was not going to make mission, at the time my mission was 1 1A HS grad, 1 senior 1 female, 1 Prior service. I put in 12 people that month to help the District. I got a call that the Colonel wanted to talk to me, I thought great, he's going to commend me for putting in 12 when my mission was 4. I got there and got a letter telling me I failed to make mission because I did not enlist a female. 2 months later they wanted to know if I wanted to extend my time on Recruiting Duty, I went back to the Infantry, at least there I could identify the enemy
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Glad to see some things never change! I was on recruiting from 90-93 in the Northeast and the stories are all so familiar. If I had a dollar for every time the 1SG had me locked up at parade rest threatening to "f*ck up my career if I didn't make mission".....such a great motivational tool. I was a gold badge recruiter with 2 sapphires so it's not like I was a slacker. Between that and the Army reneging on the "choice of duty assignment" promise coming off recruiting, recruiting really sucked the life out of me. Only real positive is that it was a great segue to civillian life. Had a ton of civillian friends and contacts for job hunting right when I needed them.
SFC Ernie Lowery
SFC Ernie Lowery
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I recruited 1971-74 in LA. Big push since the draft had ended. I and 23 recruiters were sent to TDY to the recruiter school at Ft Ben Harrison for six months, with the promise you would be returned to your present duty assignment. I was a station commander of a 7-man unit, not on production. Then the big news came: I would be assigned to the City of Industries, CA, from which all recruiters had been fired with prejudice. Took my ETS, never looked back.
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CW2 Ernest Krutzsch
CW2 Ernest Krutzsch
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Had a friend in 1978 who was my Squad Leader at Fort Campbell as an 11B, he went to recruiting in Daly City , CA and I was assigned to Fort Ord, 7th ID. I met him on weekends in San Fran and we would go party. He was frustrated. He was trying to recruit from Daly City, he would tell HS students they could make $400 a month if they joined. The kids would tell him, MY Dad gives me that a week for allowance! Talk about a tough place to be.
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SFC Luis Colon
SFC Luis Colon
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Didn’t they substitute when you volume is way higher,
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Fly south like a bird in Winter my friend. As far south as you can go. And when you think you've gone as far as you can go, continue further until you run into Trumps wall. Recruiting in the north is hell. Winter is coming, and winter has arrived. I want to be as ominous as possible because you should go Drill Sergeant and never speak of this again.
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SFC James Johnson - Had a pretty big falling out with my chain today over that toxic mentality.
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bro try southern cali haha
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SSG Mark Matteson
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Great Answer and I believe a better career move going Drill.
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MSG (Join to see) - I think that CT in general (I was in Manchester) is a rough market to begin with. Top that off with what is perhaps the most toxic command in the Military.
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