Posted on Jan 23, 2020
PFC Trista Neal
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SPC Stewart Smith
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I bought my house last year using VA loan.
They would not approve me for a "fixer upper" because it was my first time using the VA loan. So basically I had to buy a house that was move in ready.
It's ok though cause I got the perfect house after about 16 months of searching.
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SPC Erich Guenther
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My parents have done all three: Manufactured Home, Plan Home, Custom Home. Of the three Custom Home has the most issues because the builder contractors are doing it for the very first time and not all of them are blueprint literate and so it is a constant game of negotiation with a custom home, do you ignore the error, make them redo it, accept the error and negotiate a price reduction. If your talking about building the home yourself, can't speak to that. Custom home builders almost always require you first to go to an architect for detailed plans and you have to pay for that as well. It is usually an architect that is in partnership with the custom home builder or employed by them. Getting plans done for a custom home will cost a chunk of money depending on the square footage.

Plan homes the architecture is done and your buying a home type via a built model. They still have issues but not as many as custom homes. I built a plan home it was the 7th iteration of the plan in the subdivision I live in so the builders only made like 3-4 visible mistakes that were either corrected, ignored or accepted.

Manufactured homes have the plans done and are primarily built in a factory and trucked to a lot and assembled in a matter of days. High quality manufactured home and you will rarely have issues with it because it is built repetitively over and over again in a factory under close and constant supervision. Only problem my parents had with a manufactured home was finding a subdivision that would allow them, and when they first trucked it in the neighbors right away tried to block it until they saw what the fininshed product would look like (the image in their heads was double wide mobile home but in reality it turned out looking like a custom built ranch so they were OK with that). The only problem with the manufactured home that I noticed was you could see the seams of the house if you looked carefully in places where the sections were joined together............only issue I noticed.
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PFC Trista Neal
PFC Trista Neal
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Thanks! What is a Plan Home? When your parents build the custom home, how did the VA loan help? If I want a new home, I should look into new construction?
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SPC Erich Guenther
SPC Erich Guenther
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OK a Plan Home is where they will offer you a specific floor plan and up to three exterior architectures for the house your about to buy. Typically a plan home is built as part of a larger subdivision development so that the builder can use the same experienced crew to replicate the same building a few times over.........thats how they cut the errors. Plan homes will allow some minor changes or options like say adding a bay window, adding a fireplace, adding an extra sink in a bath room but overall you cannot change the floorplan or sq footage that much. Custom home you walk into an architects office initially with what you have in your mind as far as how many bedrooms, how many bathrooms, how many living areas and approx style your looking for, for the outside (ex: english tudor, stone cottage, victorian farmhouse). The architect listens and asks questions and then produces first a scratch drawing for you. If you like he does a detailed blueprint. Once the blueprint is done, making changes along the way cost more and more until once the drywall is in they will tell you NO MORE CHANGES. I never used a VA Loan but I was fully instructed on how it works by my last builder. If you buy a plan or custom home the VA sends out an inspector once the home is completed and before the mortgage is issued to ensure VA and you are not getting ripped off and that the home is approx in value to the mortgage. VA inspector is more to protect the VA from a bad loan. In my case I would have got possibly a 1% reduction in mortgage interest by using VA vs going with the builder loan. I took the builder loan as the amount I was borrowing was not significantly large to my income and VA inspection process slows down the mortgage process a bit. If you want a new home and you really do not care all that much about having a say in the construction. You should look at subdivisions that are near completion and have possibly 2-3 homes left to sell or only the model homes left to sell. That gives you a lot of price negotiating power because the Builder wants to exit the subdivision and move on. It's like buying a 2019 car in 2020. So the Builder will be more willing to accomodate you on price and free changes. If you build a new home and your just looking at empty lots. What most people do there is they try to find a home more expensive than theirs about to be built and they build their cheaper model next to the expensive one to sponge off the value of the house next door............and yes that really works. Buying an existing house vs buying new is up to you. Generally a new home is largely maint free for the first 10-15 years unless you get hit by a storm all you need to do is keep it painted on the exterior (mine is 95% brick so not a huge expense there) and maintain the lawn. All the appliances come with the kitchen in a new home except usually they do not furnish Washer and Dryer or the Refrigerator. Depends on your budget which route you should go and what state you live in and what new homes cost. Also do research in your area who the good builders are. In Dallas, PULTE HOMES, CENTEX homes are well built reasonably priced homes. DAVID WEEKLY is nice but closer to a custom home in looks and price. LENNAR sucks, KB HOME sucks, ask around and folks will tell you. Same deal when you buy an existing home, ask who the builder was and do research on the builder and if there are a lot of complaints filed against them. On any home, don't load up on options, have a budget on options and stick with it (like a car). You can always add to the home later in life. For my plan home I was given 5,000 in free options from the builder and I added 10,000 to that. Home cost $144,000 built back in 1999......4 bedroom 2100 sq foot ranch. So I was about 10-12% on options. A few houses down some guy spent $45,000 on options to a home that coset $165,000 to build. That is excessive and he threw away most of that money. Options are extra items a builder charges for in a home. Usually you have three levels of carpeting, three levels of appliances in the kitchen, etc. Go with the med to top level on carpeting, cheapest level on appliances Lighting packages I went with level 2 insead of level 1 (med level). So you have to kind of figure out what you will probably replace later and what you wont. The kitchen appliances they supply are cheap to replace (oven, garbage disposal, dishwasher, microwave) so don't go top of line on them........waste of money. Carpeting and Flooring you want to last a while. So I did top of line on carpeting and padding and laid ceramic tile in kitchen, bathrooms vs laminate or carpeting. Later put ceramic tile with a pattern in the central hallway as that got a lot of wear with the carpeting that was there. Ceramic tile lasts forever so choose colors and patterns wisely. You can buy awesome looking ceramic tile now that looks just like white marble. Also go medium shingles on the roof. Roof replacement is probably your most expensive item don't go cheapest shingle there. Good Luck!
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PFC Trista Neal
PFC Trista Neal
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SPC Erich Guenther - Thank you!! You offered a lot of information. I will be doing a lot of research!! You have helped a lot of people who didn't know.
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