Posted on Mar 29, 2018
I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?
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CJ Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, Army veteran and recent candidate for State Representative in District 55, along with a couple of other people was arrested yesterday in Olmos Park, TX (Bexar County). He was tazed and subsequently injured in that arrest with a head injury and was hospitalized. I was told that the head injury was a large gash on the back of the head. He also suffered numerous scrapes on his wrists and arms.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Posted 6 y ago
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American citizens rights being infringed upon by a bunch of liberal police officers. Most police embrace the 2nd amendment. Especially considering many police have been saved by legal gun toting citizens. The Chief should be arrested for infringement of thier 2nd amendment rights. The police officers at a minimum should be fired.
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Sounds like he was abusing his authority, if that’s the case then I would go to the Attorney General with it.
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Copy of Olmos Park,Tx.-RAW FOOTAGE CJ GRISHAM ARREST
Raw footage from incident at Olmos Park Tx-includes CJ Grisham being tazed by Chief Valenciano. And Jim being slammed to the ground by Det Ruiz and Chief Val...
The arresting officer should be arrest and fired from his job and never allowed to be a police officer again. He also needs to serve prison time for hurting Mr. Grisham.
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This didn't sound like a non-violent demonstration to bring attention to their cause. The 1SG could have followed the Police Chief's directive and sued the police department and city in federal court for violating his civil rights?
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It seems that Olmos Park is in the business of having their police dept sued. A quick Google search of the city name produces not one but several cases of this sort in litigation.
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Even though it is legal, if it was me I would have listen to the officer, then pled my case. Cops are being ambushed, and shot everyday in almost every state. We live in a tumultuous times. I carry concealed an try not to expose my weapon, if confronted by the police I would listen and obey their order.
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I have absolutely no idea what to say, but wow. I am from, born and raised in the great state of Kentucky. We've always been open carry. We have a vast array of wildlife and if not/nearly always NOT, for self defense purposes, but it is rather considered somewhat normal for those of us that own and work our farm land, hunt, among other things, to open carry most everyday. I have 4 children, so the above said, I don't carry on evenings we go to a birthday dinner and things of that nature LOL That said, we or I, may be in an area "an animal" for humanity's sake, needs to be put down on the spot. Many scenarios, but you run up on a snake, other wild animal or are hunting a deer and your non-military and much less accurate friend doesn't make a kill shot and you have to put the deer/other, down quickly and in hopes of saving it "the torture" <- these are just a few common reasons, at least in KY, that KY has ALWAYS been an open carry state and I have not personally ever heard nor read about such an incident as you posted. (around here locally that is, as well in a very short amount of time, anyone in the state/without a felony and or criminal record, may carry concealed with NO permit required) Only my opinion of course, but I do believe I'd make a concerted effort to avoid that "park" and it's ridiculous staff that has obvious mom and dad issues and or got beat up in school and merely using a parks and recreational badge to show some sort of "authority", per se. If many more join in and just don't go, they'd not be able to remain open. All of that said, Karma does have it's ways and it'll come back around, in time. I also agree with MSgt Hoffman, btw - Terrance
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I have a Texas License To Carry permit. My obligation to an approaching police officer is to immediately inform him/her that I have a firearm in my presence.At this time l will be instructed as to what I should do with said firearm.Unless I'm in the commission of a crime,no action will be taken by the police. Other than to ask me not to wave it around. The police at Olmos Park went there with a completely different mindset.I won't rehash what's been said here,but the police went way over the line.For those that think we In Texas still have our horses tied to the rack out front,I have yet to see anyone with a sidearm strapped to his hip.
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