Posted on Mar 29, 2018
I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?
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CJ Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, Army veteran and recent candidate for State Representative in District 55, along with a couple of other people was arrested yesterday in Olmos Park, TX (Bexar County). He was tazed and subsequently injured in that arrest with a head injury and was hospitalized. I was told that the head injury was a large gash on the back of the head. He also suffered numerous scrapes on his wrists and arms.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
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1 am from Massachucetts where people have been killed because the toy gun they had was real.
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
SPC Brian Klotz I didn't know a lot about open carry in Texas two years ago. I also didn't know that there had been several other incidents in this county before this one. At the time, I was confused about who was right and who was wrong, as well as were they both at fault for what happened. Everything has since been cleared up for me. Anywhere from outside comments, to comments from people that have lived in that county.
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Not being the the least funny sgt but we have been trying for a very long time why police decide to do what ever they want to any United states people and the worst of all I as a guy that grew up in a place and time where told the world what cops do and now they see it and still don't want to believe and not to mention the courts every cop is always right and we are wrong because we are not supposed to know the law thank God the army is a little different they always gave me a fair shot so all I can say is it has been this way a very long time
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The police chief must be a liberal. He was completely within his right to open carry. He was also protecting his community from this nonpeaceful altercation.
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It certainly looks like the police in that county are the ones who crossed the line. I think it’s incredibly important to remember that we live in a sinful fallen world. Humanity is prone to evil and corruption and every form of leadership and authority needs a checks and balance. Corrupt police as may be the case here are not representative of all police. The same is true when a soldier does something evil and faces UCMJ action, that bad soldier does not represent all soldiers.
We live in a time where people allow the actions of a few to define entire groups of people and roles; and that’s as unjust as this action and others we've seen. When we see corruption we need to call it out and fight it within the parameters established under the constitution.
We live in a time where people allow the actions of a few to define entire groups of people and roles; and that’s as unjust as this action and others we've seen. When we see corruption we need to call it out and fight it within the parameters established under the constitution.
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So instead of obeying a yet TBD lawful or unlawful order from a police officer you decided to make a scene. I know you have the right to protest whatever you like but I really wonder what your platform is???
They may have been looking for an armed pedo that fit your description.
You stated police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign/ You failed or hide what the sign read and because open carry is legal it is still illegal for some with criminal records.
So were yur trying to establish another autonomous zone?
They may have been looking for an armed pedo that fit your description.
You stated police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign/ You failed or hide what the sign read and because open carry is legal it is still illegal for some with criminal records.
So were yur trying to establish another autonomous zone?
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What kind of You responsible first sergeant goes to a protest with open carry in carries a fake weapon unless he’s trying to incite trouble. you responsible first sergeant goes to a protest with open carry in carries a fake weapon unless he’s trying to incite troubleFreaking STUPID
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Doesn't even matter, even if they are found guilty the settlement will be paid out of taxpayer monies and they will just be forced to retire with all their benefits.
Until these public officials have to put money out of their own pockets, nothing will change.
Until these public officials have to put money out of their own pockets, nothing will change.
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
SGM (Join to see) When I shared this 2 years ago, I was trying to figure out why the Chief acted the way he did towards open carriers. Since then, I've learned that the involved parties were not strangers to each other and that the Chief has had similar situations with others. He's not looked upon very favorably in that county.
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SSG Jeffrey Leake I was just wondering why you were “conflicted” over it. Seemed like a clear violation of Rights.
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
SGM (Join to see), it clearly was. My conflict at the time, was why would the Chief over react as he did towards someone legally expressing his 2nd Amendment rights.
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