Posted on Mar 29, 2018
I have conflicting feelings over this. I know that open carry is a thing in Texas, but who crossed the line, if anyone?
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CJ Grisham, President of Open Carry Texas, Army veteran and recent candidate for State Representative in District 55, along with a couple of other people was arrested yesterday in Olmos Park, TX (Bexar County). He was tazed and subsequently injured in that arrest with a head injury and was hospitalized. I was told that the head injury was a large gash on the back of the head. He also suffered numerous scrapes on his wrists and arms.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
Grisham and crew were legally opening carrying pistols and long guns in response to an event last week when an Olmos Park police officer drew guns on and detained someone with a protest sign solely for the reason of open carrying a pistol (which turned out to be a training fake).
Grisham had a phone conversation with the Olmos Park Police Chief, Rene Valenciano about their policies, etc. in which the chief seemed entirely unconcerned with his officers illegally detaining people for a perfectly legal activity. (The conversation will be linked in the comments below).
Grisham and crew went to Olmos Park yesterday and were legally and peacefully open carrying and got arrested for it. There is a video of the arrest. There was no articulated probable cause for the arrest. The police showed up, including Chief Valenciano and ordered Grisham and his crew to the ground. Grisham at least refused. It was Valenciano that personally tazed and arrested Grisham.
Between the phone call and video from the site, it's very clear this was an illegal arrest by an oath breaking police officer and they will be held accountable.
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Well, this is simple... the OPPD will be sued for a FORTUNE along with the officer and chief. Chief will be fired. City will be out millions in lawsuit. Grisham and buddies will be back in park doing their thing once he recovers from his less than friendly encounter. Cops need to learn the law and get their heads out of their ass!!
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I hope the SOBS have deep pockets cause they be in for a heavy-duty civil suit. Their civil rights were also infringed upon. Which could bring Federal charges.
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Wow, of all places Texas....the Chief was out of line and corrupt, based on what I am reading and viewing....so based on what I see and hear...Chief is going to jail...
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My opinion and mine alone. This chief is an idiot who cherry picks the laws he wants to enforce. Texas is a big state so there are still liberal hotbeds here with jackasses like this running things. He was wrong and will probably get a slap on the wrist. Problem with that is one day he will attempt to arrest the wrong one and it will end with someone getting shot, more than likely him or one of his deputies. These boys down here take there 2nd amendment rights very serious and they are willing to go to jail or die for that right. Sort of like some old boys that got together over a couple hundred years ago to "form a more perfect union."
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In my opinion this has nothing to do with gun control it has nothing to do with the right or wrong idea of open carry it has nothing to do with the state of Texas. If a policeman and in this case the police chief don’t know the law and don’t follow it that’s a big problem and that’s what the story is about. I don’t get to decide whether the speed limit is right or wrong I’m obligated to Obey it. The police chief is obligated to enforce the laws as they are and not re-interpret them on his own personal whim. If he doesn’t know the law That is not qualified for his job
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Police say they want respect, at least that's what I hear. If they continue harassing law abiding citizens, who will they look to for help when trouble really commences. I wasn't always like this but I am very leery of the police. Too nervous for my liking.
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Normally I would support a police officer in the execution of their duties but, based on the circumstances alleged to be true, he needs to not only be trained better but probably needs to be fired for official oppression.
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Hummm could the “chef” possibly be a Democrat? Anti Ownership of firearms? And could not Read nor Understand the words of the Second Amendment, and did Not Believe in the Constitution or Bill of Rights!
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Police being held accountable? Cool story, bro. Let me know when that goes down.
Cops are not held accountable.
Cops are not held accountable.
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Conflicting feelings? For what? Even if you're anti-gun, If someone is obeying the law they should not be arrested, little own assaulted (if the arrest is illegal, then force used is assault)! I'm tired, to the point of being furious, of police officers who feel they are the arbiters of what is legal. I have enormous respect for the law enforcement community & the majority of them do their job very well! But recently there have been some that have arrested & or harrassed people demonstrating in defense of their Second Amendment rights, in a completely legal manner. Personally I believe the offending officers should not only be sued personally, but I think they should be criminally prosecuted for illegally detaining someone, which if done by anyone else would be called kidnapping.
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SSG Jeffrey Leake
I shared this over 2 years ago. At the time I didn't know enough about Texas gun laws. I've since educated myself, and been educated by people that live in Texas and said county. There is no more confusion on my part. People should really pay attention to how long a post has been up.
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CPL John McCulley
SSG Jeffrey Leake My apologies Sgt., (not for the content but for the timing). This is actually a learning opportunity for me. This thread was pushed to me through email by Rally Point. Whenever I get an email highlighting a thread, if I'm interested I comment, but I've never looked at the date. I've always just assumed that if it's being sent out like that, that it's new. But we all know what happens when one assumes! My bad.
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