Posted on Feb 22, 2019
I lied at MEPS. Will they go back and look through my medical records?
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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We all lied about something at MEPS. Speaking as a former medic and now cardiovascular professional a murmur is just an abnormal sound. It doesn't mean much unless it interferes with you regular heart function. Play stupid. You were 6 when you found out.
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I’m torn on this one. Yes lying itself is bad and against the Army values but history is full of outstanding soldiers that lied about medical issues to get in. Audie Murphy was rejected by the Marines and Navy because he was too short and too skinny and I believe he put rocks in his pockets to make weight for the Army and he earned ever valor award including The Medal Of Honor. Many pilots who became Aces memorized the eye charts to get into flight school. If you read Band of Brothers many of them who were wounded at Normandy went AWOL from hospitals to jump into Holland and many did the same to join them in Bastogne. So your motivation seems pure you don’t want this to keep you from serving but in the future be honest I had the same heart murmur problem as you and I also grew out of it I also was told I had a concussion at 14 and all MEPS had me do was be evaluated by a neurologist who determined that I in fact didn’t had a concussion and was misdiagnosed. I ended up serving 22 years
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Screw MEPs, don't let anyone or any process stop you! Listen the best Senior NCO's i've ever served with were liars. This might seem like a distorted statement...just deploy and you'll find out what I mean! Good luck!
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First off, it's against the law to lie to any Federal Agency, as many have stated, its also against the Army Values. Good luck. It's called falsifying documents.
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SSG Sean Donahue what's with the segregation talk? I understand the ire against those talking about upholding Army values (they'll be the first ones to turn their backs on Soldiers in need) but dude- you were starting to sound like you're tiptoeing a racist line there...unless I misinterpreted.
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SSG David Kaelin
It was once against the law to give safe harbor to slaves fleeing the South.
Federal Agencies lie to the American people all of the time. The FBI is notorious for their lies and cover ups. Presidents lie to the American people all of the time.
If this is the worst thing this kid ever does in his life, I'm thinking he'll be ok.
Federal Agencies lie to the American people all of the time. The FBI is notorious for their lies and cover ups. Presidents lie to the American people all of the time.
If this is the worst thing this kid ever does in his life, I'm thinking he'll be ok.
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SSG Sean Donahue While I don’t find the heart murmur noteworthy, I would pay money to see you post pictures of your two graduate degrees from Columbia University.
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SFC Wendell Pruitt
MAJ (Join to see) - After reading the post He made that immediately preceded yours I also would pay money to see those degree's and I would bet a review of his OPMF would also be interesting and reveal a lot more about him.....
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Ok, one, NOT a good idea to be putting all this out there on a public web forum. Just... not. Two, Ok, you were told you had a heart murmur at 6 and would grow out of it. Were you officially diagnosed with it? Did you take medications? Did you at any later point in your life after 6 get told by any subsequent physician that you had or still had a heart murmur?
Things in childhood come and go. Was it stupid to not mention it? Yes. But here is the thing, you were six. You cannot reliably be expected to remember what happened or that you had done at that age unless it was serious and traumatic.
Now, you have several options open to you. You could tell your recruiter exactly what you explained here and while it would be frowned it, it would be considered as a nothing, an oversight. Not everyone can be expected to have perfect clarity of memory or you can simply ignore it and let things run their course. The Doctors have said it is nothing and you can enlist so you are not barred on that front.
You have already given the military and civilian authorities full clearance to go sifting through your past history, all of it so if they wanted to they search through and find said piece of documentation.
Would it have been better if you had disclosed it to your recruiter? Yes. That said, talk to your recruiter. He or she can always file the requisite paperwork to amend your record. You are not enlisted yet. You have not signed anything, you are not sworn in. So there is no fraudulency involved. However if you sign on the dotted line and swear the oath and then later this comes out, you can be screwed if the right person decides to push it.
Things in childhood come and go. Was it stupid to not mention it? Yes. But here is the thing, you were six. You cannot reliably be expected to remember what happened or that you had done at that age unless it was serious and traumatic.
Now, you have several options open to you. You could tell your recruiter exactly what you explained here and while it would be frowned it, it would be considered as a nothing, an oversight. Not everyone can be expected to have perfect clarity of memory or you can simply ignore it and let things run their course. The Doctors have said it is nothing and you can enlist so you are not barred on that front.
You have already given the military and civilian authorities full clearance to go sifting through your past history, all of it so if they wanted to they search through and find said piece of documentation.
Would it have been better if you had disclosed it to your recruiter? Yes. That said, talk to your recruiter. He or she can always file the requisite paperwork to amend your record. You are not enlisted yet. You have not signed anything, you are not sworn in. So there is no fraudulency involved. However if you sign on the dotted line and swear the oath and then later this comes out, you can be screwed if the right person decides to push it.
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SSG James Harlow
The Recruiter is probably going to tell him to STFU. On Recruiting duty I had a DEP with tickets he had not paid, I told him to bring the receipt when he has paid them. My First Sergeant was at the station. He pulled me outside and informed me if Joe said he paid the ticket, it was paid. Joe went outside with the 1SG and came back in and said they were paid. So all of you on your high horses, don’t give this kid such a hard time.
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GySgt Kenneth Pepper
Overheard this conversation one day..."Are you sure it was heroin? Are you a chemist?"
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Don't say a word, play dumb, if they find a mumur say that's news to you..
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BS... "You were told" by whom? A medical doctor or your mother or aunt? You see an x-ray? How do you know. A real doctor at MEPS said you were ok, I trust docors, your aunt with a high school diploma? Not so much.
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