Posted on Feb 22, 2019
John Kellen
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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LCpl Joshuah Powers
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I signed my life away to the Corps in 2013. I was in a bad car accident that crushed my jaw and did even worse brain damage. My recruiter requested my med docs as they do. I went to the hospital I was treated at, retrieved my docs and gave them to Sgt.... Sitting at his desk in the recruiting office hes looking through my medical records and finds a page that mentions brain damage. He says hmm they dont need to see this. Balled that page up and threw it in the trash. I said the pages are numbered wont they know. He then pulled out a white out marker and made the numbers disappear. I recieved meritorious promotions, meritorious mast, assigned as squad leader. That page missing was never an issue. Not saying it's on the most solid morale ground but at the end of the day it didnt hold me back. If they need bodies they will make bodies happen.
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PO1 Michael Bruner
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All this time, you're worried about your physical health. Right now, I'm a little concerned about whether or not you passed the ASVAB. Because you're not very bright if you're posting this on a VERY public site.
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SSgt Eod Team Leader
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Why the hell would you lie? No matter what branch, truth and integrity are core values. So man up. Tell them the truth. If you are already past MEPs and through boot/basic, then go to the JAG office.

But really. What the actual hell?
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CPL James S.
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well, let us break this down:

1- you are admitting on a public access site full of *veterans* that you lied at MEPS, which is not only punishable under the UCMJ (article 107 if I remember correctly), but it's also punishable under 18 U.S.C. § 1001 ( https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/1001 )

2- It doesn't matter what "A bunch of others" told you. It is entirely possible that they will look back at your records, especially if you're diagnosed with a problem related to the murmur in the near future (especially if this is in your first term).

3- the diagnosis of anything that can be related will likely not be covered by the VA once you get out (if they let you stay in, that is). Its called a preexisting condition and you've admitted, publicly, to the knowledge of the condition, and the US gov't can, therefore, dismiss any claims you have in the future unless you can demonstrate a causal link from the military that invalidates the preexisting condition as a cause.

4- regardless of your future status in the military, you will eventually be tasked with relying on others to accomplish a task and possibly even leading them. Trust is a big issue in those situations. Do you want your six being covered by someone who intentionally lied just to get something they wanted? Seriously consider that one and make your decision accordingly.
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SPC Kennith Wheeler
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The bigger issue here is that you admit that you lied about it using a public forum. Why wouldn’t you tell them about it up front and just let them run you through the tests to see if you are physically capable. The military is not just about you and what you want. It’s about being a part of a team.
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PFC Brendan Carr
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Integrity is one of the 7 Army Values. HOOAH lol
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CPL D Malone
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As someone who is familiar with background investigations. It's never a good idea to lie. Lying says a lot about a person's character and integrity. It's not that during an investigation we will just look into a persons medical record. The only time that would occur is if a particular issue arose. The other thing to consider is the fact that no matter what you did, which could be anything small from lying about a medical condition to murder, there is always someone, somewhere who knows what you did, and their is a high probability that we will find that person. With that said, it's best just to be honest about your medical condition. You might be able to obtain a waiver. Never lie though... I've seen multiple cases of recruiter issues as well. We are catching them doing dumb things just so they can boost their recruits. It's completely ridiculous. It's not any one thing in your life that will keep you from getting the position you want. What we look at is the entire person concept, where were you then vs where are you know. Was the incident something that was isolated or not. Either way, the best policy is to ALWAYS DO THE RIGHT THING!!! Good luck...
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Great advice and insight
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SN Donald Hoffman
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Stick with the truth. Has it effected your ability to run or walk with speed or duration? If not, then no worries. If it has, then worry.
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Sgt Eoin Stewart
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Not to be a downer but making a false official statement is a serious offense. I’d keep these type of matters off a public forum.
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You cant unring a bell.
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SFC Kevin Bradley
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Young man, you need to fess up as mentioned previously. You want nothing to do with a life that is built on lies, even small ones. Honor and integrity dictate you tell the truth.
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