Posted on Feb 22, 2019
John Kellen
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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LTC Ray B. (Ret)
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Never lie. When the military finds out the UCMJ will crush you and your soul
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LTC Ray B. (Ret)
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Should not start your career with a lie. Also, you just admitted it on a social media site which is accessible by the military. Please find life outside the military your lack of honor and integrity make you unfit.
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SSgt Mark Ferry
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If I wasn’t clear in my previous message, the fact it bothers you means you did something wrong. On purpose. If it wasn’t done on purpose that I think you’re just fine. But if you did it on purpose to intentionally give false information, you’re going to have a tough time in the military eventually.If I wasn’t clear in my previous message, the fact it bothers you means you did something wrong. On purpose. If it wasn’t done on purpose then I think you’re just fine. But if you did it on purpose to intentionally give false information, you’re going to have a tough time in the military eventually
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SSgt Mark Ferry
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Realistically plenty of people have heart murmurs when they’re young. it’s not necessarily a definitive diagnosis so it’s very possible you didn’t know about it. Of course saying that you lied about it is a different thing but I think that if you want to have a decent career you got to get over that being scared that you’re going to get in trouble somehow. Case in point, I admitted to smoking marijuana before at meow, then found out 20 years later the kid who gave me the weed was a full bird Colonel flying the stealth bomber. Which leads me to believe that admitting to things is considered just as bad as doing them.

Personally I did not know about my heart murmur because it was on old records of a surgery the military had to get a court order to obtain. They weren’t the least bit worried about it and did not even listed on my medical.

But if you’re going to sit here and straight out admit that you lied - we’ll read my story about the pilot again. I’ve been out of the military a long time and recognize that my paranoia as a kid was just as bad as anything I actually did.
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SSG Squad Leader
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Dear lord, let’s start by saying this has to be one of the dumbest things that can be posted in a public forum. And common sense is not your forte. You will be fine as long as you shit your mouth. The quicker you learn that, the better off you will be in life.
As far as all you holy saint going on about how he lied, and doing so means you wouldn’t want him in your platoon, yada yada yada....... get the fuck over yourself. Most of you did the same or have throughout your career, including you Officers.
Stick with it kid and keep pushing forward. Learn from this, but also let half the bullshit negative answers you are receiving here go in one ear and out the other.
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SFC Edwin Alices
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What medical record are you referring? There is a law called the Privacy Act that requires your written consent to access personal medical information. You are not the first one or the last one to be less than honest coming in. I will not worry about it as long as you can meet physical standards. If for any reason it comes out later, i would suggest that honesty is an Army value that we don't only talk about. You will be required to live it and your word is your honor. You decide if you can live up to that standard.
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Come on folks, some of my best Senior Leaders have told me back when they were still wet behind the ears that they did some things that they weren't the proudest about, even trouble they got into and lies yes lies. Most of this happened early on in there careers and they learned from it and became better people from it. These things shape people's lives. They make the greatest Senior ranking people that the military have.

Give the kid a break.

I'll bet my next retirement check that at least 65 percent if not more of military folks have told white lies, and if you beat your chest and swear that this is not true then your honestly full of Shit.

Also I was a recruiter and did Q&A for all the recruits MEPS packages. I found errors or lies in at least 40 percent of the recruits that would be sent to boot camp. They had to be corrected and some of them I would let go to boot camp and others where it was blatantly that they had crossed a line did not go. Most recruiting offices don't have a Q&A guy. So just imagine how many of them from other offices are now soldiers and Sailors.

This goes to show that there are many I say many people that are in now that have lied on there MEPS forms. So for them now to say that the values of the Service's are Integrity and since this kid had lied that they don't want him anywhere near them in a uniform, well folks chances are you have all along served with people that did the same shit as this kid and your probably best friends with them unbeknownst to you. Congratulations you just received your Darwin Award.

Go Figure!
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Let’s see... You were “told” you had a heart murmur, AND told it would go away. Who told you this? Was that person a doctor? When I was a Navy recruiter, I warned my applicants not to tell outright lies at MEPS, but don’t volunteer ANYTHING that was not medically documented by medical professionals. I lost a couple guys because they said “Grandma said I had asthma when I was a baby” to someone at MEPS. I’d ask them “Was “Grandma” a f**king doctor???” As i drove them back home, never having a chance at the military again... If you do have a minor heart defect, and are allowed to stay in, the only downside is the fact that they may be able to prove you had it before your service and a disability claim may be tough. Though the argument could be made that is was aggravated by your service and was therefore compensable... I had a congenital spine defect that was never diagnosed until I had 10 years in, but am now receiving a disability due to the condition being aggravated by my service... You should be OK, unless you told an actual lie at MEPS and answered “No” if a doctor specifically asked you if you had any sort of heart defects or disease...

Good luck to you on your cardiology visit! Hope all turns out OK and whatever condition is easily treatable.
SSG Red Hoffman
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Oh come on...this is a joke, right? Looking for a little attention? Let me tell you, should you find yourself in need of a security clearance, the lie will surface and you will be denied.

Not sure this being a bright move on your part to post a question like this. Did you ever rob a bank?
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You sound like a very bitter and angry individual. You call a man’s potential life threatening health issue ‘stupid bs?’ It is always best to be honest because lies have a tendency to bite you in the ass. SSG D, i suggest you seek out someone to help you manage your anger.
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CPT Edward Barr
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Most "mild" heart murmurs are benign, and cause no detrimental effects. They do not get worse with exertion. Later in life, they may get worse with weakening, or at any age, from illness.
In relation yo your post:
You have been taking a lot of heat, and scare tactics, on here. I am going to go out on a limb, and say you don't deserve it. Your post, leads me to believe you are young, inexperienced, and a bit naive. I don't say this as an insult, but just a fact of life. Young people make mistakes. I do not condone lying at anytime. However; modern society, and the modern Military, have drastically regressed in developing leaders and initiative. It used to be; if you messed up, you got back of the tent ass whoopin, or a few days washing the gravel rocks 1 at a time. Now, you get an article 15, and your career is over. So, the ranks are filled with people unwilling to stick their necks out, unwilling to take initiative, and unable to make decisions because they're afraid of making the wrong one.
A bad decision is better than no decision. (That is a generalization that is used because it has a high rate of accuracy)
And this is why I don't think you deserve the heat. Society may have made you feel you "couldn't risk not being perfect."

As for lying at MEPs: You can't go to any unit, and not find several who didn't. Right or wrong, it's reality. With everything in life, you have to be willing to accept the consequences of your actions.
In time, the undesirables will be weeded out. The good ones, people will realize they are worth keeping, more than making them "pay," for their lie. I have seen Soldiers drummed out, for minor stuff, because they were a mope. I have seen Commanders fight, to keep a good Soldier, for lying in an effort to become a better person. And they succeeded.
Just work your hardest to be that "good Soldier."
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