Posted on Feb 22, 2019
John Kellen
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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SGM Thomas Terebesi Sr
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Right now it's in the hands of the cardiologist. They will make the determination if you can enlist. All based on your current condition. Hope it goes well for you.
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MSgt George Fillgrove
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Add a new word to your personal dictionary: conundrum.

There's lots of stories of men so determined to serve their country that they didn't disclose a medical condition upon entry in to the military. At different points of our history -- different wars and conflicts -- there have also been numerous individuals who were qualified for military service when they should have been disqualified by MEPS doctors. Some went on to significant military careers or redeemed themselves as military heroes.

The other side of the issue is a misdiagnosis or the opinion of a medical professional that counters the diagnosis.

My advice, first, see what the other doctors say. Then "own it" and tell your recruiter. It may be something minimal that might be overlooked. At the other extreme, be prepared for a medical waiver or a medical disqualification from military service.

Here is why. If the problem surfaces in basic training or the first several months of military service, you could find yourself with a medically-related EPTS discharge that could limit your VA benefits.

Your other problem is a little more serious. While I commend you for coming forward, you did admit the issue on a public website for the world to see. That means that your issued is/will be known by the people who are checking on your background in relation to you Entrance Check or military security clearance and you could be bounced from service in basic training because you admitted lying -- which then is called a fraudulent enlistment.
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LTC Ken Connolly
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Well, there is a moral issue here. The question do you perpetuate the lie or fess up and tell them what happened? This is a decision only you can make and live with.
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LTC Ken Connolly
LTC Ken Connolly
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Hey dude. This issue is probably older than you are and already settled. So wake up and smell the roses. As far as what I so w/ my time is my business and definitely not yours.
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SN Frank Maniscalco
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Note,by law, your not accountable for any medical assesment done,or told to you as a minor... period.
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SSG Shauna Holmes
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A heart murmur isn't a major medical issue. I had one and didn't know the middle of my career.
But I would advise all who want to join to PLEASE notify of any medical issues. My OSUT unit almost got investigated when one private died after a PT test. The initial report was heat stroke (which would have cause us all to lose our badges and the CO a commission) but later we found out he had a heart defect. THEN we ended up with a certified clinical schizophrenic who we put out by white phase.
Let military doctors decide, it's their job to screen.
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PO2 Intelligence Specialist
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You wont have to PLAY dumb. Lying on an official document or to a government agent is a dismissable offense. If, like some others have said, you were not aware of the condition it could be overlooked. However, since you knew and said nothing, it is a lie by omission. My niece's now husband failed to disclose that he had taken ADD meds as a kid. The Air Force threw him out of "A" School with an Erroneous Enlistment. That's the best you can hope for. Oh, and BTW, that Dr doesnt make the decision if you stay or not. You have proven you are a liar and, therefore, should not be trusted with any information of any importance. The military doesnt need another Brad Manning.
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Rita Corpier-Weiss
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As a military wife, and military mom of two I am still dismayed that the military would and could actually hold a soldier or airman accountable for having complete and full knowledge of their early childhood ailments. I respect that you want to be transparent and honest and believe it an honest mistake/oversight. Hope it turned out well for you. Good luck!
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Capt Dennis Tague
Capt Dennis Tague
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He's not looking to be transparent or honest. He outright lied and now he's worried his keester might be held accountable by a fine and imprisonment for lying to the government.
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Brad Powers
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Having people tell you that you are incapapble of something is hard to take i know and truly believe the only person that can limit ones potential is themself. If you know that you have the ability as well as the desire to serve the U.S. Military and only if you know then do not give up, find a good doctor and just be honest. It is not just about you getting acceptance but also about your health and ability to stay alive, you would not want to hide something like this from a career in the U.S. Military. Good Luck.
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PO3 Timothy Aldrich
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You should be fine. You will get a full physical when you get to boot camp
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SSgt Michael Yester
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I mentioned to my recruiter that my doctor heard a heart murmur when I was really young and that it only occurred once. Later on at my first base, they had a doctor check me out. He did some tests and told me that I don't have to bring up the murmer again as I don't have one.

I think bringing it up late is better than not bringing it up at all. If you don't get accepted, it was likely better for you and your health.
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