Posted on Feb 22, 2019
I lied at MEPS. Will they go back and look through my medical records?
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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CSM ZeGara hit the nail on the head. Integrity is one of the most important things in the world. If you compromise your integrity, especially in the military, then no one can trust you and you're no good to anyone. The good thing is you are young and you have time to correct it. Never compromise or diminish your integrity. If you make a mistake, own up to it and learn from it. That was one of the first things I was taught while pursuing to be a Marine. A lot of people have lied to recruiter or haven't mentioned certain parts of their history. It always comes back to haunt them one way or another. Owning up to information you left out will take a huge weight off your chest, will show your recruiter you're a man who wants to do the best he can. I can't say whether or not this will get you in the military but they may be able to give you a waiver. I'm not a doctor nor am I in a position to know what will happen (I was in 1993). I think just being upfront and honest is the best thing here. Good luck!
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Question is, what else did lie about? Posting about that here, on a public site, for everyone to see?? Not the best idea I think!!
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If it was when you were six it would be pretty easy not to remember just saying
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Hey SFC, T. McMahon, I totally agree with you! As someone who worked most of his career in JAG, it seems to me as if this issue is being blown way out of proportion by many of the respondents.
Believe-you-me, NOT ONE company commander, much the less a military prosecutor worth their salt will EVER even think about bringing this kid on Article 15 and much the less UCMJ charges for "omiting" mentioning a heart murmur. Neither will his omision preclude this kid of becoming a successfull military member if he so choses to become one.
Yes, I agree with some in this forum that military recruiters are some of the biggest liars (salesmen/women) in the whole military assemblage but they tend to "cover" their "inocent fibs" on quotas that they have to fill every period. As enlistment has been at an all time low for a long time then our "esteemed" recruiters resort to just any salesman's pitch (read: talk, promise and downright mislead) to meet their recruitment quota for the period otherwise they, the recruiters, face their CO's berating and, even, counseling and official reprimands that can hurt them in their career.
Unfortunately, it is a fact that recruiters resort to many "underhanded" maneuvers to meet their quota's and this kid who "forgot" to mention his heart murmur, faces no great challenges because of his omission. Medically, murmurs are not considered as a serious condition unless accompanied by other conditions.
As a matter of fact, now being a Medical Interpreter I run into these conditions pretty much all the time and every Cardiologist I have worked for in interpreting for their patients have pretty much dismissed murmurs as not severe and, according to them, most are benign, disappearing on their own...Again, in my knowledge NOT ONE CO, much the less a military prosecutor will lose his/her time bringing this kid on charges for something that a military judge would dismiss right out hand...and, if any CO or prosecutor dared bringing charges on this they would be quickly laughed out of court....Guys, why are you blowing this so way out of proportion?
Believe-you-me, NOT ONE company commander, much the less a military prosecutor worth their salt will EVER even think about bringing this kid on Article 15 and much the less UCMJ charges for "omiting" mentioning a heart murmur. Neither will his omision preclude this kid of becoming a successfull military member if he so choses to become one.
Yes, I agree with some in this forum that military recruiters are some of the biggest liars (salesmen/women) in the whole military assemblage but they tend to "cover" their "inocent fibs" on quotas that they have to fill every period. As enlistment has been at an all time low for a long time then our "esteemed" recruiters resort to just any salesman's pitch (read: talk, promise and downright mislead) to meet their recruitment quota for the period otherwise they, the recruiters, face their CO's berating and, even, counseling and official reprimands that can hurt them in their career.
Unfortunately, it is a fact that recruiters resort to many "underhanded" maneuvers to meet their quota's and this kid who "forgot" to mention his heart murmur, faces no great challenges because of his omission. Medically, murmurs are not considered as a serious condition unless accompanied by other conditions.
As a matter of fact, now being a Medical Interpreter I run into these conditions pretty much all the time and every Cardiologist I have worked for in interpreting for their patients have pretty much dismissed murmurs as not severe and, according to them, most are benign, disappearing on their own...Again, in my knowledge NOT ONE CO, much the less a military prosecutor will lose his/her time bringing this kid on charges for something that a military judge would dismiss right out hand...and, if any CO or prosecutor dared bringing charges on this they would be quickly laughed out of court....Guys, why are you blowing this so way out of proportion?
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Hey SFC T McMahon I totally agree with you! As someone who worked most of his career in JAG, it seems to me as if this issue is being blown way out of proportion by many of the respondents.
Believe-you-me, NOT ONE company commander, much the less a military prosecutor worth their salt will EVER even think about bringing this kid on Article 15 and much the less UCMJ charges for "omiting" mentioning a heart murmur. Neither will his omision preclude this kid of becoming a successfull military member if he so choses to become one.
Yes, I agree with some in this forum that military recruiters are some of the biggest liars (salesmen/women) in the whole military assemblage but they tend to "cover" their "inocent fibs" on quotas that they have to fill every period. As enlistment has been at an all time low for a long time then our "esteemed" recruiters resort to just any salesman's pitch (read: talk, promise and downright mislead) to meet their recruitment quota for the period otherwise they, the recruiters, face their CO's berating and, even, counseling and official reprimands that can hurt them in their career.
Unfortunately, it is a fact that recruiters resort to many "underhanded" maneuvers to meet their quota's and this kid who "forgot" to mention his heart murmur, faces no great challenges because of his omission. Medically, murmurs are not considered as a serious condition unless accompanied by other conditions.
As a matter of fact, now being a Medical Interpreter I run into these conditions pretty much all the time and every Cardiologist I have worked for in interpreting for their patients have pretty much dismissed murmurs as not severe and, according to them, most are benign, disappearing on their own...Again, in my knowledge NOT ONE CO, much the less a military prosecutor will lose his/her time bringing this kid on charges for something that a military judge would dismiss right out hand...and, if any CO or prosecutor dared bringing charges on this they would be quickly laughed out of court....Guys, why are you blowing this so way out of proportion?
Believe-you-me, NOT ONE company commander, much the less a military prosecutor worth their salt will EVER even think about bringing this kid on Article 15 and much the less UCMJ charges for "omiting" mentioning a heart murmur. Neither will his omision preclude this kid of becoming a successfull military member if he so choses to become one.
Yes, I agree with some in this forum that military recruiters are some of the biggest liars (salesmen/women) in the whole military assemblage but they tend to "cover" their "inocent fibs" on quotas that they have to fill every period. As enlistment has been at an all time low for a long time then our "esteemed" recruiters resort to just any salesman's pitch (read: talk, promise and downright mislead) to meet their recruitment quota for the period otherwise they, the recruiters, face their CO's berating and, even, counseling and official reprimands that can hurt them in their career.
Unfortunately, it is a fact that recruiters resort to many "underhanded" maneuvers to meet their quota's and this kid who "forgot" to mention his heart murmur, faces no great challenges because of his omission. Medically, murmurs are not considered as a serious condition unless accompanied by other conditions.
As a matter of fact, now being a Medical Interpreter I run into these conditions pretty much all the time and every Cardiologist I have worked for in interpreting for their patients have pretty much dismissed murmurs as not severe and, according to them, most are benign, disappearing on their own...Again, in my knowledge NOT ONE CO, much the less a military prosecutor will lose his/her time bringing this kid on charges for something that a military judge would dismiss right out hand...and, if any CO or prosecutor dared bringing charges on this they would be quickly laughed out of court....Guys, why are you blowing this so way out of proportion?
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They will definitely look at your medical records and contact your physician. The fact that they referred you to a cardiologist rather than rejecting you outright is a good sign. Ask your personal physician to send your records to him. The Cardiologist will run at least an EKG or Echocardiogram. If he feels there’s something serious he’ll do some more invasive testing.
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