Posted on Feb 22, 2019
John Kellen
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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SGM Bill Frazer
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So you lied on official documents- that's UCMJ action, probably sent home. So why should the Army, your command believe anything now or in the future. Your leaders and buddies have to be about to trust you with a lot of things including their lives, yet by your own admission, you are a liar. Can't do the time, don't do the crime.
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SGT Jim Kowalski
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I sure hope they go back and find your lie. You failed the character challenge
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SGT Erick Holmes
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Normally I would offer advice but I can't on this one. Sorry. As LTC Mackay said " you are aware you are on a public website and that anyone can read this, right?"
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PFC Healthcare Specialist (Combat Medic)
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Wouldn't recommend posting this but if your just going for normal army stuff without a top secret clearance nobody should be digging through your civilian records unless you provide it. If it becomes a problem while your in you may get in some trouble.
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Uh, there are no such thing as public "medical records". These documents are protected by law and there is no database.

The dumbest thing you did was come here and ask about it using your real name.

If there's a problem they'll find it.

If you wanted a security clearance you probably just fucked yourself.
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SGT Glenn E Moody
SGT Glenn E Moody
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i agree if you just want to know ask the question with out using your name their is ways to ask ( LIKE ASKING FOR A FRIEND ) or someone asked me dose anyone here know a recruter said not to say anything don't ask don't tell its not just for homofobe any more
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SMSgt Kevin Townsend
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I spent 16 years as a recruiter. You say, "I was told..." Told by who, because that makes a HUGE difference. If a medical doctor directly told you of a murmur then you should have disclosed it, if asked, at the MEPS because you received a genuine diagnosis. I cannot tell you how many times I have had applicants who said the same thing. When I asked them WHO told them, many if not most said, "My mom." I usually then asked, "Is your mom a licensed and trained medical doctor?" If they said "Yes" then they had received a genuine diagnosis. I always told them to tell the truth and not hide a medical diagnosis. If mom was not a medical professional then they had just received an opinion that carried NO medical weight. Just because someone tells me that I am the President of the United States does not mean that I get to live in the White House. You must have the training, experience, and legal authority to issue a medical diagnosis. Opinions; everyone has one but that does not mean they are accurate or true.
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TSgt Aerospace Medical Service
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It depends on what the Army Regs are for medical preconditions. However, most regs state that if have outgrown them before the age of 12 you’re fine. On the other hand, if it’s something that you know you can die from during training you have to ask yourself is it really worth lying about in order to enlist
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SGT Glenn E Moody
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well most of us that joined fully know we are writting that blank check for and up to our own life and knowing that why would you not lie to enlist from the 1st day when you pick up A weapon you can die from it guard duty to field training to combat deployment's training aids to livefire equiptment failular crashes roll overs to IED's in our days now we have terriorest tactics we have had base shootings here at home
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SPC Scott Rice
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In the days of health insurance the records are easy for them to get. Your time in the military is over before it began. Even if they don't find the records you will not be able to get in with a medical issue as serious as that. People have died during basic training due to medical causes so they will not gamble with this.
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SPC Louis Copechal
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If you were told you would grow out of it, then no lie was told. You understood that it had the potential to never happen. But in the medical field, nothing is for certain as we grow. Talk to your recruiter, Meps is the beginning stages of acceptance INTO a military branch, and not the final stage. The final stage is finger print process, shots and then sworn in "Oath taken". Again talk to your recruiter.
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SGT Glenn E Moody
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even when you have done all of that you are still not in the military until you pass your BASIC TRAINING & AIT then and only then do you become a member of the U S MILITAYE SERVICE i have seen firsthand people wash out from basic training like if you can't grasp shooting the weapons of your MOS like 11-B in BASIC everyone is 11-B an fifelman until you go to your AIT for your other MOS training but most don't make it that far if they can't pass basic shooting skills & the basic PT test score every year but you must pass it first to stay in the service period that is how it was in 1982 @ FT BENNING GA ARMY INFANTRY TRAINING SCHOOL
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SFC Richard Baerlocher
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Lying on any Government paperwork is a felony. As far as the military is concerned, if at a future date while in the service you have a problem because of the heart murmur, you could be booted out, and get an undesirable or dishonorable discharge with no benefits. Be honest, tell the truth and take the consequences.
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