Posted on Feb 22, 2019
John Kellen
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I lied at meps . I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn’t they found it at meps . I have to go to a cardiologist 3 weeks from now to say if it’s a no go or not . The doctor who found it said it not a big deal and they will let me in . But I’m afraid that they will go back on my medical records and find out I lied . A bunch of others told me to just play dumb . What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ?
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William Davis
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I think the "dumb" aspect has been conquered.....
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SPC James Seigars
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Two things:

1. As LTC Jason Mackay stated this IS a public website composed of active & retired Military, as well as DA Civilians. So anyone from your Squad Leader to your Post/Base Commander & everyone in between can see this thread. So it can & will come out one way or another which makes it that much more important you tell someone about this before it blows up in your face.

2. As CSM Darieus ZaGara stated if you don’t let someone, be it a recruiter, Doctor & someone in your chain of command know about this then not only aren’t you living with Integrity, but you could also die just from exercising. I saw it with my own eyes at Fort Campbell. A SSG had a heart murmur he DIDN’T know about and went with us on a Battalion run. He made it to when everyone started quick time marching & had to sit down out of breath (we thought it was just from leading Cadence at the end of the run). We got everyone to the formation area & went back to check on him (maybe 5 minutes later) and found him unresponsive. When the Ambulance got there they said he had a heart attack brought on by his heart being weakened due to the murmur.

Do you want to be the guy who KNEW he had a heart problem & got seriously injured or passed away because he didn’t tell anyone and has all those people in his chain of command having to live with all the what if’s they could have done to save your life/career (most of them won’t admit to that or wouldn’t when I was in, but they do care. They just can’t show it because some people would try and take advantage if they did)? I know I wouldn’t.
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CPT Blake Harrah
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The internet is forever. Now if they don’t find out you’ve now taken the the risk of putting your Soldiers, peers, and leaders at risk. That was a very poor decision on your part. If you happen to make it past the cardiologist and you end up in the Army good for you. But since you have falsified your entry packet your integrity is at because you have posted on a public website. Army doctors can issue a profile for anything even if they lie on the profile (this particular situation happened to me.) If a doctor gets even the slightest hint of anything they can refer you to an MEB/PEB. Big Army medical is always going to take the side of the doctor and believe them over the Soldier and this applies to whether they are in training or not. You need to talk to your recruiter an inform them.
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SSG Computer/Network Support Technician
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So why is this post coming up now 3 years later.
I would at some point in time if I were you to somehow mention to your military doctor that you had a heart murmur at age 6 so it can get into your military records. Also now that Covid jab is mandated by the Sec of Def idiot and it causes myocarditis and pericarditis is another reason you want to get these things documented. Not that you will be able to sue because it was mandated and all three phara companies have immunity currently. Just my 2 thoughts as a retired 22 yrs Patient Admin Specialist.
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Follow up: The military can not access your private medical records ( while you were a civilian) so you would have to provide them authorization ( HIPPA ) and you can also limit what information is sent to the military. Not saying to lie but you can limit any information you give to the military. Do your research and for peak sakes never post in a open forum.
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If you had a murmur as a child and had no problems but still have it its likely something that is reral and may require some attention (like antibiotics for some surgical or dental procedures) but if there is no major issue found on echocardiogram it would not likely be an excluding condition for initial acquisition. If there is a major issue found its best that its found now and dealt with. Its not uncommon for murmurs to be found in children that dont cause any problems and everyone just forgets about them until a more in depth evaluation is done. whether it requires a waiver or is an excluding condition is based on the regulations of your gaining service.
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BS, I lied to the Doctors and on the Medical Forms in 1981 when I joined the Marine Corps and served 10ths. I lied again in 2007 to go active Duty in the Army and later retired in 2015 after Afghanistan for injuries in Combat. Young men have been lying to enter the Military Since 1775. After December 7th the lying was rampant to enter the military Even Audie Murphy. If the MEPS Doctors didn’t catch it your Condition never existed. And NO they never check MEPS unless there is a Death in Boot Camp or Basic Training.
SSgt James Mathews
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Do you mean someone had to tell you to "play dumb".
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SFC Antonio Baird
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I overlooked "potential recruit," when I posted my earlier comment. You need to tell the MEPS Chief Medical Officer (CMO) of your condition ASAP. Don't let ANYONE tell you to start a career built on a lie!
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SFC Antonio Baird
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Did someone in uniform tell you not to mention your heart murmur? Regardless of how much you may enjoy the service, to avoid legal issues 10 years from now, tell your Commander ASAP! Whatever happens, happens, but you won't be walking around with a potentially deadly condition and the weight of your lie at MEPS forever. Can you imagine doing 20 plus years, trying to retire and secure your pension and the service finds out. They may very well deny you getting a pension by saying it was fraudulently obtained. Getbit off your chest!
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Sgt John Curtin
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Why ask this on a public social media page? You're just asking to get in a bunch of trouble
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