Posted on Sep 16, 2022
I lost approximately one year's worth of leave entitlements due to S1s negligence. Should I contact IG, Congressional Inquiry, or Suck It Up?
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I accumulated approximately 110 days of leave which I planned to use towards finding a job and home after leaving active duty. I was in accordance with the commander's leave policy and DA regs, and everything went smoothly until it came to S1, who ultimately took 35 days to process my leave form. Consequently, the transitions office rejected my leave form. I can only sell back 60 days; the rest is forfeited. Please advice.
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You've only ever been able to sell back 60 days. You can extend your ETS for up to three months for pending personnel action reason, reprocess your leave and take it. IG and Congress are not going to be able to change anything that happened
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As SFC (Join to see) stated, you can only sell back a max of 60 days. Is there a reason you didn't take the other 50 days as terminal leave? You stated up front that you were going to take the 110 days as transition leave (use it for job/home hunting).
Since the COVID-19 special leave accrual is in effect, you can retain up to 120 days until 30 SEP 23, so unless there's more to the story, you shouldn't have lost any and just had your transition date adjusted. Were you under a directive of "you must separate by such-and-such date" (for example, a reservist on active duty orders can't extend past the end date in order to take leave)?
Since the COVID-19 special leave accrual is in effect, you can retain up to 120 days until 30 SEP 23, so unless there's more to the story, you shouldn't have lost any and just had your transition date adjusted. Were you under a directive of "you must separate by such-and-such date" (for example, a reservist on active duty orders can't extend past the end date in order to take leave)?
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SSG (Join to see)
I initially submitted a DA 31 pre-FY23 in order to take all 110 days consecutively (the finance office informed me that I could only retain 15 SLA days after FY22, which is also what my LES reflected). It took S1 35 days to process my initial DA 31, which brought me too close to my separation date to out-process. That being so, the transitions office rejected my DA 31 and I took regular leave. I resubmitted a second DA 31, which took another 22 days to process and again brought me too close to my separation date. So now I have to resubmit another DA 31.
The whole situation is convoluted and exhausting, especially being overseas; hence, why I did not wholly articulate my situation. However, I appreciate the input from both you and SFC Boyd. Thank you.
The whole situation is convoluted and exhausting, especially being overseas; hence, why I did not wholly articulate my situation. However, I appreciate the input from both you and SFC Boyd. Thank you.
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COL Randall C.
SSG (Join to see), it's the time that still has me confused. The SLA authorization doesn't end until next year (the end of FY23 ... not sure why you're being told FY22 .. see below memo). If you're separated now, it might be in that category of "too late to fix", but if not (you're on transition leave now), I would keep pressing for an answer from your local finance. Show them the memo and ask them why they are telling you different. Call the Army Ombudsman at DFAS and have see if they can help. Get your leadership involved.
Everything that I'm aware of (I will freely admit that I haven't been in the 'real loop' with Soldier finance issues for almost two years) says you should be able to take all your SLA until next year.
https://media.defense.gov/2020/Apr/16/ [login to see] /-1/-1/1/SPECIAL-LEAVE-ACCRUAL.PDF
Everything that I'm aware of (I will freely admit that I haven't been in the 'real loop' with Soldier finance issues for almost two years) says you should be able to take all your SLA until next year.
https://media.defense.gov/2020/Apr/16/ [login to see] /-1/-1/1/SPECIAL-LEAVE-ACCRUAL.PDF
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No, you lost this yourself! The service has always had a max leave day policy at HRC and units. You either stay under the limit, or the extra leave is pulled away. This is not new, I know it has been around since 1970. As an NCO you should have known better and have displayed woeful education, Hope you didn't steer your troops into this as well.
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SSG (Join to see)
I respectfully disagree. I was well within Army and local leave policies, as stated above. I am losing leave because S1 took an unreasonable amount of time to accomplish a 10-level task. Additionally, this comment does not provide any relevant input and is antagonistic.
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SGT James LeFebvre
This has to do with special accrual due to COVID policies, SGM, with respect, your knowledge is woefully out of date for SSG King's situation. Educate yourself before making blanket statements.
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