Posted on Feb 26, 2016
I want to join reserves as officer but I am 40% rated with VA (many reasons). Is it worth it?
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Really interested in continuing my career. I've been inactive/out for 14 years after only serving for 6 originally. I support the Navy as a contracted engineer anyway and would be very useful to them. I also would like Tricare and commissary benefits. Would I still do the DD2807-2 process if I went for a commission? I have to somehow drop from 40% to 30% or less in disability rating, but I think I have a plan how to justify that. Only thing to do now is commit to this and either go to MEPS and start the process or go to the VA and try to decrease my rating. This may take a while.
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I was at 60% before I came back on active duty orders. There were like two checks a year that were reduced because of recoupment, but worth it if you still hear the call to serve.
Come back in as an E-5 and then progress to E-6 rank. Approximately a year later, you then can take LDO exam and submit your package.
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It not worth it because the va will lesson your disability check due to your drill pay check. You can't double dip, plus the reserve may not take you because of your disability.
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PO3 Missy Kitchen
That what I mean and if he if already getting 40% disability it would not be worth it. Plus depending on his disability the reserve may not take him.
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PO1 (Join to see)
Let the military tell him, "No". I get disability and I am still in the military. I want the medical insurance and base priveledges.
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My standard response is "it depends." If you are interested in coming into the RC as an officer you need to talk to an officer recruiter to see what options (i.e. what do they need), if any, are available to you before you do anything to alter your disability rating.
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My answer is unfortunately no, it may not be worth it but it appears that you did your homework and you know what decision is right for you. I'm not saying dropping the 10% is a bad thing. But keep in mind that in addition to petitioning the VA to drop your disability by that percentage and being retirement pay eligible at age 60, your pay may be reduced to compensate your disability earnings. In addition, you would still be required the same physical requirements just like when you first went in.
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So at best you're 38? Not too sure you'll be able too because of the age you'll be once you get your rating down to 30%. Also, you may (at the least) risk having to payback the 10% difference in disability payments from when you say you improved. The DD2807-2 is a requirement regardless of enlistment or commission, especially since you have a rated disability, even if your rating was 0%.
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OK, so first let me get the numbers straight.
As I understand it you have 6 years active that ended 14 years ago. That 14 has been as a civilian; no reserve time - correct?
That puts you at ~38 assuming you entered out of high school. Many commissioning programs have as an age limit, minus your active duty time.
You say you're a contracted engineer; do you have a calculus-based Engineering degree? If so, you might be interested in the Engineering Duty Officer (EDO), Aviation EDO, or Civil Engineer Corps (CEC; AKA SeaBees).
I'm a Reserve EDO, and we're actively recruiting. Up to age 40 for commissioning is no issue, and we just approved a promising candidate at age 43, if I recall correctly. If you're interested in that program, drop me a note.
I was commissioned at age 40, with 6 years Active and 16 Reserve enlisted. I can't speak to the benefits issues, but I've found it well worthwhile to continue my reserve career. The retirement medical at age 60 is a great deal, but you may already have that covered through disability, particularly if your disability is increased on review.
As I understand it you have 6 years active that ended 14 years ago. That 14 has been as a civilian; no reserve time - correct?
That puts you at ~38 assuming you entered out of high school. Many commissioning programs have as an age limit, minus your active duty time.
You say you're a contracted engineer; do you have a calculus-based Engineering degree? If so, you might be interested in the Engineering Duty Officer (EDO), Aviation EDO, or Civil Engineer Corps (CEC; AKA SeaBees).
I'm a Reserve EDO, and we're actively recruiting. Up to age 40 for commissioning is no issue, and we just approved a promising candidate at age 43, if I recall correctly. If you're interested in that program, drop me a note.
I was commissioned at age 40, with 6 years Active and 16 Reserve enlisted. I can't speak to the benefits issues, but I've found it well worthwhile to continue my reserve career. The retirement medical at age 60 is a great deal, but you may already have that covered through disability, particularly if your disability is increased on review.
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PO2 Eric Jones
Yes, you got all the numbers right. Unfortunately I have an IT degree, non-calculus. I'll probably be pursuing the Information Dominance professions because my engineering experiences are all in naval tactical and intelligence networks.
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Since you have been inactive for 14 years, are you physically qualified and willing to serve if you are called to active duty? If not do not waste everyone's time. I was a Reserve Center Commanding Officer and I have seen too many people who wanted to get the paycheck and the benefits but as soon as they were called up and the "rubber hit the road" tried to find every excuse in the world to bail. The Naval Reserve is not a thinly disguised social welfare agency.
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PO2 Eric Jones
Yes, I believe I am physically qualified or I wouldn't waste anyone's time. I do see your concern. I will be reducing my disability rating (40% to 30%) and then possibly NOT be accepted. That rating will likely be lost for good if not accepted. Please do not worry for a second that I would avoid deploying, my commitment when given always did and always will meet the expectations of the Navy. I have full intent that the Navy and I will mutually benefit from this arrangement.
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Some food for thought, while receiving drill pay your VA benefits would continue to be awarded based on new directives. Just last week the VA Central Office informed everyone that they intend to recoup drill pay from VA Compensation; effective Feb 22, 2016, "all adjustments for drill pay processing will be retroactive." They go on to state "The retroactive adjustment will create a debt on the Veterans award. The Veteran will receive notification from the Debt Management Center (DMC) on repayment options." In bold letters in this directive "This action will create a debt/overpayment in the Veterans award."
So although the memo allows for veterans to file for financial hardship, make a payment plan, etc.. this is detrimental to those going through the drill/training process. So plan accordingly with finances. I can see this system causing major credit rating problems if these issues aren't resolved in the governments interest.
So although the memo allows for veterans to file for financial hardship, make a payment plan, etc.. this is detrimental to those going through the drill/training process. So plan accordingly with finances. I can see this system causing major credit rating problems if these issues aren't resolved in the governments interest.
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PO2 Eric Jones
Yes, thank you. I do understand the ramifications of this. It would eliminate the first set of payments each year to counteract all active days. Any year I am only drilling, it would be a month or two. Any year I might be active full-time, I would lose that compensation for the entire year.
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Many commissioning programs have age limits. When I finish my degree next year, I'll put in for SWO; which has a maximum commissioning age of 29. I believe most URL designators also have that cutoff, with waivers granted to a certain point. If you've been in for 14 years already, then you should make sure you're still good age wise with the designator you want.
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PO2 Eric Jones
I'm fairly certain I'd go in for LDO, not Line. And inside that, probably intel officer or EMO-type. That's where all my background and most useful skills are in my 14 years of contracting work.
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PO2 Ronald Lavalle
42 is the age limit to join as an Officer, according to navy regulations , YOU ARE ENTITLE to request a age waiver due the fact that you are a vet., call central and I bet you anything in the world that CENTRAL will tell you exactly the same as i am telling you, now, unfortunately we have a bunch of lazy Navy officers that WILL NOT do their job by complete an Officer package because they don't want to fill the age waiver paperwork (TRUE FACT), in the other hand, Army will do the extra mile to build a good Officer package and tells you what and how to do it. I'm 42 YO, Navy veteran, 8 years in the service as a Corpsman and now accepted in the Army as an Officer in the Medical field. NEVER accept a NO as an answer.
Now, you have to choose, either you have your 40% disability or you continue serving our country as an Officer..... you can waived your disability and Army can also help you with that (easy steps and fast, Army people don't play around and definitely they are not lazy people)
Now, you have to choose, either you have your 40% disability or you continue serving our country as an Officer..... you can waived your disability and Army can also help you with that (easy steps and fast, Army people don't play around and definitely they are not lazy people)
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