Posted on Oct 4, 2015
I went to the Chow Hall this morning, left pretty pissed off. Would you do the same thing I did?
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My spouse and I went to the gym this morning and had a great workout. After my shower, I went to the DFAC for Sunday morning brunch. spending time with the Soldiers as well as chow was great.
We noticed a couple (probably in early-mid forties) sitting at the next table with three young children (ages estimated at 6, 8, 9)....the children were running all over the place - not being watched or corrected by the either parent....looked like they had been there for quite some time as well because there was food, wrappers, plates all over the place.
I noticed the children playing around the area fallen hero table so I approached the father, I thought I was very restrained - here's what happened:
Me: Sir, do you know what this table is here for?
His reply: "roger, I know the meaning".
Me: Are these your children?
Reply: Yes.
(the children were still running around.....now the youngest was pulling at the fallen hero table cloth)
Me: Are these your children?
Reply: Yes.
Me: Sir, do you truly understand the importance of this display, and understand what it exactly means to all of us within this community?
Reply: Yes
Me: Sir, please get your children under control!
At that point, he grabbed his son and put the child over his shoulder and walked with him back to the table and then turned him lose & let him go back to "roaming" all around the DFAC....next to the stoves and all the other appliances (in the back) which are not so kid friendly!
How would you have handled the situation? Directly? Indirectly (thru the DFAC manager? Ignored the situation completely, (it aint my business).
We noticed a couple (probably in early-mid forties) sitting at the next table with three young children (ages estimated at 6, 8, 9)....the children were running all over the place - not being watched or corrected by the either parent....looked like they had been there for quite some time as well because there was food, wrappers, plates all over the place.
I noticed the children playing around the area fallen hero table so I approached the father, I thought I was very restrained - here's what happened:
Me: Sir, do you know what this table is here for?
His reply: "roger, I know the meaning".
Me: Are these your children?
Reply: Yes.
(the children were still running around.....now the youngest was pulling at the fallen hero table cloth)
Me: Are these your children?
Reply: Yes.
Me: Sir, do you truly understand the importance of this display, and understand what it exactly means to all of us within this community?
Reply: Yes
Me: Sir, please get your children under control!
At that point, he grabbed his son and put the child over his shoulder and walked with him back to the table and then turned him lose & let him go back to "roaming" all around the DFAC....next to the stoves and all the other appliances (in the back) which are not so kid friendly!
How would you have handled the situation? Directly? Indirectly (thru the DFAC manager? Ignored the situation completely, (it aint my business).
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So not a single individual that was working in the DFAC during the entire meal said anything to the DFAC Manager/NCOIC? That's where it should have started!
Since it didn't, surprised it took a CSM to step-up, unless other troops were concerned of offending the individual, or worse yet, having the tact backfire in one form of retribution or another. A CSM has nothing to lose, but if someone of a younger generation, say SPC/SGT were to open their mouth and the CoC didn't back them up, career is done. Wouldn't be the first time...
Personally, both ways would be tactful, either notifying the DFAC or handling it tactfully yourself.
Since it didn't, surprised it took a CSM to step-up, unless other troops were concerned of offending the individual, or worse yet, having the tact backfire in one form of retribution or another. A CSM has nothing to lose, but if someone of a younger generation, say SPC/SGT were to open their mouth and the CoC didn't back them up, career is done. Wouldn't be the first time...
Personally, both ways would be tactful, either notifying the DFAC or handling it tactfully yourself.
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I would have given my rank and told him he neesed to tighten up his kids. Take them to a park as this is a place of business. Teach your children what this table means. Then get on the DFAC NCOIC for not taking care of his duty.
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DFAC manager should have gotten involved sir but you went straight to the problem which was the parent. Unfortunately he needed to be embarrassed to realize his parenting skills warranted improving. Sometimes improving our surroundings doesn't require a nurturing approach but a harsh realization!
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I'm at a wow state right CSM, I know it took everything in your body to keep calm and try to control the situation. The couple were wrong and kids don't know any better unless their parents teach them. I salute your patience CSM and I hope to control myself if ever approach with a situation like yours.
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letting ones kids run around anywhere is deplorable, so much bad parenting in the world.
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Discipline and respect starts at the top. When our leaders show they are easily overrun then chaos will ensue. Our governmental leaders have shown they have no discipline or respect for others or even themselves by the way the conduct their lives and our "we the people's " business. It continues down the chain of command, to the Pvt. And his/her children. You did the right thing and should have done more. Report it to the OIC or whoever is responsible for that area.
God Bless these United States of America!
God Bless these United States of America!
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As a NCO whom worked for a D fac in the past my advice is simple I would have pulled that soldier to the side and jumped all in his butt about his children first off disrepecting the display and then disrespecting my chow hall and would have told him that he and his family had to go
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