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Considering the ridiculous expenditure of money that has been spent on uniforms, all branches should adopt the same Combat Uniform(s). There can be several ones for different environments IE woodland, desert etc, but it is a absolute waste of money to have different uniforms for every branch. Why have we as a nation wasted hundreds of millions on ACUs and AF Service uniform which offer no camouflage unless you are fighting in a stone quarry. And who is the genius who thought blue uniforms were good at sea? You don't blend into the ship and if you fall overboard no one can see you. It does not seem to make much sense.
That is one area that would save hundreds of millions of dollars.
I believe the best choice would be the MARPAT uniform.
So should the different branches cooperate and have one uniform and what choice would be best?
That is one area that would save hundreds of millions of dollars.
I believe the best choice would be the MARPAT uniform.
So should the different branches cooperate and have one uniform and what choice would be best?
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I would say yes, but instead of just one, make it one per environment type.
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PFC Erich Hesse
I agree with that. Having one pattern forr all and separating them by environment seems cheaper by far than what service members have now.
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OH HELL NO! It's bad enough some idiot in the Pentagon decided the Nav have to wear that ridiculous digital "baby-blue" crap some A$$wipe called a uniform.
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For the love of the DoD budget YES! We have service uniforms that are different.
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SCPO (Join to see)
I have seen two separate Army Cammies, Navy, we have 3, Marines 2, I have only seen one for the Air Force but there may be more. That's at least 8......, 8 different Cammies for one Countries Military.
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TSgt Joshua Copeland
AF only has one "AF" one, but we wear multicams when we go to places like Africa and Afganistan.
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Someone mentioned that Obama tried to change the covers of the male Marines dress blues. That was the FAKEST news ever. It was a skit on Comedy Central. As far a uniforms being the same. It would sure make things easier if everyone wore the same uniform. What does the word "uniform mean?
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LTC (Join to see)
It would save money and make the “uniformed force” ... well as you said uniform
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I have to agree with PO1 (Join to see) here. Yes, SGT (Join to see) we are one big, happy, dysfunctional family. However, just like in a real family, no two siblings are exactly alike. Not even identical twins. They have their own personalities. So, our traditions, our uniforms, these are part of what makes us who we are. It not only distinguishes us a either a Sailor, Soldier, Marine, Airman, or Coastie, but it honors the history of our service and those who wore the uniform before us.
Cheers
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SGT (Join to see), I'm kind of good with the different uniforms for different services. I guess we could use a patch or some other distinguishing insignia to differentiate (service name tag does it on work uniforms) between the services.
That said, I'm still for different uniforms. It seems to be a part of service tradition to me.
That said, I'm still for different uniforms. It seems to be a part of service tradition to me.
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SGT (Join to see)
Guess I wasn't thinking of tradition just thought we should look a little more unified then we are.
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PO1 (Join to see)
Years ago the Canadians did precisely that - their naval personnel were completely ill at ease in the Canadian Army's uniform. The Canadian Naval personnel I had contact with were so disgusted with it they openly spoke of quitting the service. While the Canadian government was pleased with themselves - I can assure you their Navy was NOT pleased to be forced to wear an Army uniform.
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LCDR (Join to see)
I think a lot of people grossly overestimate the potential savings. Sure, there's a bit of excess inventory you need to carry - but you're still going to need to carry much of that excess anyways. Sure, you get better deals for larger buys - but considering the sizes of the services, much of this benefit has already been realized.
In the end, you still need to clothe the same number of people in the same number of uniforms. Standardization helps, but it's not going to be a magic bullet.
In the end, you still need to clothe the same number of people in the same number of uniforms. Standardization helps, but it's not going to be a magic bullet.
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Remember when we had camouflage that was specifically designed for the environment in which we planned to operate? I do...but then we started wearing colors that don't even occur in nature the very same year I stopped being a cadet and actually became deployable. Ah, irony...
Multicam/OCP is a step in the right direction and seems to cover a pretty wide range of environments. I think it could serve us well as a baseline garrison pattern, but we still need specialized deployment patterns. Camo has never been one-type-fits-all, and it won't be until we stop using patterns and invent some sort of chameleon suit. Until then, we need options and, at the very least, a palette of colors that occurs somewhere outside the DFAC.
Multicam/OCP is a step in the right direction and seems to cover a pretty wide range of environments. I think it could serve us well as a baseline garrison pattern, but we still need specialized deployment patterns. Camo has never been one-type-fits-all, and it won't be until we stop using patterns and invent some sort of chameleon suit. Until then, we need options and, at the very least, a palette of colors that occurs somewhere outside the DFAC.
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It worked back in the days of BDUs when everyone wore the same uniform. Not until someone had a great idea to "save Joe some money" did we change to this worthless drab we wear now. I agree with the MARPAT which the Army lab built and should be the standard for all branches. Problem solved.
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TSgt (Join to see)
Very true, sir! Back in the 80s, EVERY service wore the Woodland BDUs.
I think we should stick with something that works. As others have said, a woodland and a desert pattern/color scheme would be all we really need. Make the accessory gear (packs, vests, harness, etc.) in a solid color (the USMC uses coyote brown) so that it can be used with both camo patterns/colors.
But then people wouldn't be able to get rich by making the services buy new camo every couple of years.
I think we should stick with something that works. As others have said, a woodland and a desert pattern/color scheme would be all we really need. Make the accessory gear (packs, vests, harness, etc.) in a solid color (the USMC uses coyote brown) so that it can be used with both camo patterns/colors.
But then people wouldn't be able to get rich by making the services buy new camo every couple of years.
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I think one uniform based on location/environment and one branch. It would save money but I don't ever see it happening because of the traditions and history behind the services.
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LTC (Join to see)
true, not logical but true
...and CSMs love being able to look out and tell their SMs from the other services at schools, events, etc
...and CSMs love being able to look out and tell their SMs from the other services at schools, events, etc
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CPO (Join to see)
definitely need different branches of the military, we have proven that. the discussion thus far has shown the majority are in favor of an environment-specific multi-service camouflage. They have already been designed, MARPAT and MULTICam are the best for desert/urban, NWU T3 are best for jungle and NWU T1 are best for getting lost in the ocean...oh wait we weren't trying for that were we...
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