If a soldier is late to formation everyday, is that worse than being overweight everyday? Why do leaders barely care about the donut eaters?

Late everyday? How is this possible, miss formation the 1st Sgts on your ass, miss two your getting office hours. My sons AF attached to an Army brigade, he's been sick since getting home from Afghanastan , some type of respitory distress and he's being evaluated for PTSD. He's not fat, but he's barely making the runs. Sometimes there's reasons, but just chowing down would have someone on your ass I'm quite sure. I was in an Anglico unit and I'd guarentee that.

They are two different issues that are important. One a soldier is ftr and screws over their battle buddies because they are already work hard getting the mission done. Two the over weight soldier is well over weight and they may have trouble doing PT/ making the run standards and the APFT standards which questions their ability to deployed.

Since when is being chubby considered a disciplinary issue? 60% of this country is obese. If 60% of the country were to disregard timeliness... we'd be France. unfoutunanly well fed has become very 'merican. Just ask the CEO of Hardy's.

yea that's just a lack of discipline, A. Fat body can motivated to lose the weight if he doesn't he can always be removed from the Military!

Both should be dealt with according to individual regulation. Personally, I would be on those who are out of shape more.

I think that both are pretty bad but a soldier being late is worst. Now if that soldier that was late was the overweight ("that guy")... Then paperwork needs to get started immediately. Regardless, a soldier being late needs to be care just as much because it starts a ripple where soldiers start to realize that that soldier who is late is not getting any kind of punishment so why am I here then? Right place, right time, and the right uniform.

These are combined sometimes. I have seen overweight Soldiers forced to attend remedial PT. If failing to show for that a few times they will be counseled and given Art 15, the same as an SM who is continually late to formation. The discipline and good order of an organization all go back to the leadership.if Soldiers are continually late, the leadership has to address it or they are allowing it.

I would rather have someone that will show up to work on time. Lateness is a for sure discipline issue. An overweight Soldier may have a medical issue and must see a nutrionist. If there is nothing wrong with the overweight troop then maybe the ABCP (see AR 600-9) need some addressing and if that isnt working administrative actions may help he or she to get fit or get out.

Both issues need to be addressed in different ways, but trends speak for themselves. Both these examples have underlying factors that attribute to the reason for the infraction. Either the service member gets straightened out or the small team leadership is failing in those duties he/she are supposed to uphold.