Posted on May 26, 2018
If I resign my commission can I get it back again?
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If I resign my commission and enlist would I be able to take my commission back latter on in my career? I am looking to resign my commission and enlist to active duty. Would I be able to get my commission back once I am active duty or sometime latter in my career?
I have been asked for more detail. SO this will sound like a dumb idea to some. I left the Army as an O2 31A (1st LT MP officer) about 5 years ago. I have been working with a reserve recruiter to get back in as an O2 31A in the reserves. After working on this for over a year now I have been told I am looking at another 16-24 months in order to get my security clearance back. I can not get back in until that comes back. I will turn 40 this year and want to get back in the military before my body is to broken, so that means I need to get this done sooner then later. So I have started talking with an Active Duty recruiter to get back in. They have told me I can only go back in as an E4-E5. I am ok with this at this time. My ultimate goal will be to get back in and work a way to take my commission back and be an active duty officer. Is it possible to take back my commission or is that I pipe dream?
I have been asked for more detail. SO this will sound like a dumb idea to some. I left the Army as an O2 31A (1st LT MP officer) about 5 years ago. I have been working with a reserve recruiter to get back in as an O2 31A in the reserves. After working on this for over a year now I have been told I am looking at another 16-24 months in order to get my security clearance back. I can not get back in until that comes back. I will turn 40 this year and want to get back in the military before my body is to broken, so that means I need to get this done sooner then later. So I have started talking with an Active Duty recruiter to get back in. They have told me I can only go back in as an E4-E5. I am ok with this at this time. My ultimate goal will be to get back in and work a way to take my commission back and be an active duty officer. Is it possible to take back my commission or is that I pipe dream?
Edited 7 y ago
Posted 7 y ago
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It's technically possible, but not probable. I would never recommend going that route if your long-term goal is to become an officer again.
Asked another way....what are the odds of a 40+ soldier getting a direct commission or earning an OCS slot after having already given up their commission? My spider senses are telling me "Not good".
Asked another way....what are the odds of a 40+ soldier getting a direct commission or earning an OCS slot after having already given up their commission? My spider senses are telling me "Not good".
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I worked in HRC-STL (when the Reserve PERSCOM was in St Louis) over a decade ago so my working knowledge is from then, so take what I say with a grain of salt. Having said that, laws and regulations regarding commissioning don't change that much overall, so I'm betting things are fairly similar.
First, I'm guessing the clearance backlog is causing the delay in obtaining one. The OPM breach a few years back contributed to this and I had the same problem as a former civilian contractor trying to get hired after it had expired after only 2 years.
Second, I would say that the ability to get your commission reinstated is *possible*. I was a career manager in the late 90s and early 00s when the active and reserve component were hemorrhaging captains and the (then) DA Secretariat (in our building) was considering both active and reserve duty commissions from former officers. I don't have any stats on success rates but I'm fairly sure a few guys I sent over there got back in.
Third, I'd be cautious about going this route. Vacating a commission (or, in this case, enlisting) puts your officer fate in someone else's hands and, as always, any reinstatement is subject to the needs of the service. Furthermore, my memory fails me as to whether REFRAD (release from active duty, ie going to the Army Reserve (AR)--RA officers sometimes confuse this with complete separation) versus actually resigning (getting completely out of the Army, separating) versus being passed over twice in the Army Reserve had any bearing on the chance of being reinstated. My hunch tells me that is the order of most likely being accepted back with a commission.
Fourth, sometimes after 9/11 the Army Reserve changed up it's transfer procedures to the Army Reserve component for active component officers and started to (finally) actively manage the IRR. Not having all your info or read all the responses and not being familiar with those "new" changes, I'm curious whether you are sure you are completely out. Prior to circa 2003, we had plenty of IRR officers who thought they had been separated because they thought they had resigned (when they only REFRAD'd) or for a 2x pass over (active component officers have another 2 attempts in the AR). They found out they were in the system typically when they were mobilized for OIF/OEF.
Bottom line last. Proceed with caution. Army recruiters are typically not well informed enough about officer commissions-- nor are their commanders-- to answer pointed questions or give full answers. I would recommend contacting your would-be career manager at HRC at Knox and (hopefully) they will be well versed enough to give you a definitive answer. Even then, request they cite you chapter and verse.
First, I'm guessing the clearance backlog is causing the delay in obtaining one. The OPM breach a few years back contributed to this and I had the same problem as a former civilian contractor trying to get hired after it had expired after only 2 years.
Second, I would say that the ability to get your commission reinstated is *possible*. I was a career manager in the late 90s and early 00s when the active and reserve component were hemorrhaging captains and the (then) DA Secretariat (in our building) was considering both active and reserve duty commissions from former officers. I don't have any stats on success rates but I'm fairly sure a few guys I sent over there got back in.
Third, I'd be cautious about going this route. Vacating a commission (or, in this case, enlisting) puts your officer fate in someone else's hands and, as always, any reinstatement is subject to the needs of the service. Furthermore, my memory fails me as to whether REFRAD (release from active duty, ie going to the Army Reserve (AR)--RA officers sometimes confuse this with complete separation) versus actually resigning (getting completely out of the Army, separating) versus being passed over twice in the Army Reserve had any bearing on the chance of being reinstated. My hunch tells me that is the order of most likely being accepted back with a commission.
Fourth, sometimes after 9/11 the Army Reserve changed up it's transfer procedures to the Army Reserve component for active component officers and started to (finally) actively manage the IRR. Not having all your info or read all the responses and not being familiar with those "new" changes, I'm curious whether you are sure you are completely out. Prior to circa 2003, we had plenty of IRR officers who thought they had been separated because they thought they had resigned (when they only REFRAD'd) or for a 2x pass over (active component officers have another 2 attempts in the AR). They found out they were in the system typically when they were mobilized for OIF/OEF.
Bottom line last. Proceed with caution. Army recruiters are typically not well informed enough about officer commissions-- nor are their commanders-- to answer pointed questions or give full answers. I would recommend contacting your would-be career manager at HRC at Knox and (hopefully) they will be well versed enough to give you a definitive answer. Even then, request they cite you chapter and verse.
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If the security clearance is holding you up, why not try to get it done faster? I know that most of it is out of your control, but if it is on somebody's desk, find out who that is and call regularly about it. If that doesn't work, get a Congressman involved. I used sailor's Congressman a lot, and they were surprisingly helpful. They can get a lot of logjams undone with a phone call. Suggest you write a letter as I got a better response. To me, it seems unlikely the route you described above. Best of luck.
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