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I follow asatru paganism. I am recruited for 13fox airborne. Leave sept 4th for bt at Jackson. Can I get my religion recognized.it is slightly important, I just want the proper head stone. *I do not associate with white power/racism. I joined assuming we are all brothers and sisters and will fight to my very core for that belief* thank you
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Submit a request when you file your paperwork at inprocessing and see if the Chaplain can assist in supporting your request.
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Asatru is a well known and (relatively) common religious expression in the military, particularly within Combat Arms.
Get with your Chaplain and ask about the Distinctive Faith Group Leaders (DFGL), and try to get connected. If you run into a lack of support, search online for one of the national organizations for your religion.
What you should not expect is to have standards or schedules grossly adjusted to accommodate your faith based needs. Thne military might bend for you a little but it will not break to accommodate your faith.
Good luck.
Get with your Chaplain and ask about the Distinctive Faith Group Leaders (DFGL), and try to get connected. If you run into a lack of support, search online for one of the national organizations for your religion.
What you should not expect is to have standards or schedules grossly adjusted to accommodate your faith based needs. Thne military might bend for you a little but it will not break to accommodate your faith.
Good luck.
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Tim Scheible
My religion is increasingly becoming the "look" for nazis/white power and racists. Unfortunately
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I'm sure things will be fine! I had a lieutenant colonel whose wife was a Buddhist and he was an atheist and he is still a very nice guy to talk to. He is an armor officer and he just got promoted to Colonel. As long as you have goodness in your heart, being religious or not makes no difference. Just make sure you learn and follow Army resiliency training. It will help you when times are tough. It will give you a sense of self and appreciate what you do have not what you don't have.
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Tim Scheible
Thank you for your concern, sir. I am quite sober and looking forward to serve my country and better(indefinitely) provide for my loved ones. I have everything on the line, everyone to lose.
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LTC Stephen Conway
Tim Scheible awesome, someone like you that has peace from within will have the resiliency to not be like some of the rest who Crash and Burn.
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That has always been according to the history and organizational record of the “religion”. The purpose is to disallow people to just make up new religions on the fly. If that were allowed we would have all sorts of fanciful religions rising and falling in days, months or years (mostly as a closely held tax shelter) rather than it taking decades or centuries. Just hang in there. If yours stays true to its established structure long enough it will eventually be recognized.
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Tim Scheible
SPC Henry Francis Thanks I will definitely be doing that, I'm friends with a jag and didn't realize they may be able to help!
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SPC Henry Francis
Lol, It seems pertinent to mention that I am a fundamentalist Christian. I wish everyone’s faith was like mine but I cherish my freedom to choose for myself and enjoy my own choice. That’s something everyone is entitled to under our constitution. It’s what makes America the greatest nation on earth IMHO.
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Tim Scheible
SPC Henry Francis pertinant maybe, like you said we are free to follow which we find, I do not deny your gods existence like you may do for mine, but that doesn't mean I wouldn't fight for your freedoms. America will continue to be the best throughout history.
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SPC Henry Francis
Tim Scheible I never heard of your specific religion. All I ever learned about paganism came from Dragnet the movie (1987). As is the case with comic treatment of my religion, I expect it was less than accurate and a bit insulting to yours if not completely inaccurate.
I would defend your rights just as staunchly as I do mine. In that we are brothers.
I would defend your rights just as staunchly as I do mine. In that we are brothers.
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Tim Scheible
Thanks, I'm not worried about being loved or not. Or missing prayer or whatever. I have no regrets or fear considering I haven't done anything wrong. Just doing the right thing through actions.
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1. It will take more than just 1 of you to get recognition. w, Was Airborne for 22 yrs, never planned for a headstone, maybe a pile of brass and dead bodies, but not a headstone. 3. Something to check on with maybe a chaplain, etc.
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I don't think you'll need to worry. I've known several soldiers.who worshiped the Norse gods. You shouldn't have too much trouble. In fact, I had a soldier who was an asatru pagan. I'm not sure why you had to preface you beliefs with a disclaimer. I've never heard of Norse Pagans being associated with white supremacy. Funeral arrangements are generally handled by family. If you're concerned about your wishes being honored, you can always setup a will.
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Tim Scheible
I've been called a murder, satanist, fascist, racist, nazi, white devil... many things but I don't care, they're just ignorant. I suppose that makes sense, I don't really know how it works if I get killed I was told there's a form I fill out before going on a tour where you'd pick re-pick your religion, funeral song etc. I thought that was where I'd pick a stone, but if Asatru is not recognized etc
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There is a standard form that lists a lot of 'what if' type information: Next of kin, other family members, relationship data (if you are married or not and to whom, etc.), data on your children, who to notify in the event you are KIA/ MIA, who NOT to notify under those circumstances, who you want getting your pay if you end up MIA/ POW, etc. in addition to your religious preference. This form is validated/ updated whenever you change duty stations, periodically, or upon your request if any of the information on it changes. If you HAVE to choose from a list, choose 'other'. Most 'other' selections have a place to write-in what the 'other' is.
As to the accusations: It is unfortunate and NOT uncommon for people to be painted with the same brush as others with whom they have only one or a few things in common but nothing or very little else. Same religion, same race/ ethnicity, same gender, same generation (Boomers vs. Millennials), etc. Just as an example: There are is a whole movement in our political sphere right now to derail the nomination of a Supreme Court Justice (Kavanaugh) because he is Roman Catholic and apparently that makes him either a pedophile or at the very least a sympathizer/ supporter of pedophilia because a small number of people who share his religion have participated in that particularly repugnant practice. I would venture that less than 1/10 of 1% of Catholics participate in or approve of that particular type of practice, yet there are those who try to accuse that the actions of the nefarious few DEFINE all Catholics. Any sane person knows that it isn't true. Another example-- several years ago there was an attempt by the military tattoo review people to require that all tattoos of Celtic Crosses be considered 'gang related' because some two-bit 'gang' decided to adopt an age old symbol as their own... Fortunately, common sense prevailed as the symbol existed LONG before this 'gang' which likely only 'existed' for about 15 minutes.
Your attitude is correct: They are just ignorant. I don't know anything about your particular religion so would make no assumptions, but I understand why you felt the need to pre-emptively distance yourself from those who claim to share your religion but who demonstrate a divergent set of 'values' than yours. It is a tough place to be for sure, but the best response to those who would make such accusations is 'we aren't ALL like that'. Try to think of it in terms of how the non-radical Muslims deal with it... There is a tiny minority of people who share their religion that give ALL of them a bad reputation, but they aren't ALL bad. I point this out by way of illustrating that you are not alone in being unfairly judged on the basis of your religion. To let you in on a dirty little secret-- MOST of us are in the same boat as you only to varying degrees. There are stereotypes about almost ALL religions/ belief systems: Catholics, Baptists, Jews, Muslims, Eastern Religions (Buddhism, Shinto, etc.), Scientology, Atheism, Satanism, etc. People have an habit (which I will never understand) of placing each other in 'categories' to which no one really fits.
As to the accusations: It is unfortunate and NOT uncommon for people to be painted with the same brush as others with whom they have only one or a few things in common but nothing or very little else. Same religion, same race/ ethnicity, same gender, same generation (Boomers vs. Millennials), etc. Just as an example: There are is a whole movement in our political sphere right now to derail the nomination of a Supreme Court Justice (Kavanaugh) because he is Roman Catholic and apparently that makes him either a pedophile or at the very least a sympathizer/ supporter of pedophilia because a small number of people who share his religion have participated in that particularly repugnant practice. I would venture that less than 1/10 of 1% of Catholics participate in or approve of that particular type of practice, yet there are those who try to accuse that the actions of the nefarious few DEFINE all Catholics. Any sane person knows that it isn't true. Another example-- several years ago there was an attempt by the military tattoo review people to require that all tattoos of Celtic Crosses be considered 'gang related' because some two-bit 'gang' decided to adopt an age old symbol as their own... Fortunately, common sense prevailed as the symbol existed LONG before this 'gang' which likely only 'existed' for about 15 minutes.
Your attitude is correct: They are just ignorant. I don't know anything about your particular religion so would make no assumptions, but I understand why you felt the need to pre-emptively distance yourself from those who claim to share your religion but who demonstrate a divergent set of 'values' than yours. It is a tough place to be for sure, but the best response to those who would make such accusations is 'we aren't ALL like that'. Try to think of it in terms of how the non-radical Muslims deal with it... There is a tiny minority of people who share their religion that give ALL of them a bad reputation, but they aren't ALL bad. I point this out by way of illustrating that you are not alone in being unfairly judged on the basis of your religion. To let you in on a dirty little secret-- MOST of us are in the same boat as you only to varying degrees. There are stereotypes about almost ALL religions/ belief systems: Catholics, Baptists, Jews, Muslims, Eastern Religions (Buddhism, Shinto, etc.), Scientology, Atheism, Satanism, etc. People have an habit (which I will never understand) of placing each other in 'categories' to which no one really fits.
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