Posted on May 4, 2014
If you are non deployable, you shouldn't be able to get promoted. What do you think?
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I think being non deployable is the worst thing in the Army. Nothing worst than watching your Soldiers board the plane to deploy and you are in the rear.
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
I used to work for a SFC that was non deployable and couldn't even wear her vest lol. I was like seriously, why are you even here? Why are you training us on anything and will not be there when it matters the most?
In my eyes if you are non deployable i don't see why the Army doesn't start a chapter packet on the SM or Leader and send them to the house.
There is another way for the Army to downsize right there.
I think you shouldn't be able to get promoted either. Deploying is the biggest and main part of the being a Soldier. Going to war when needed. If you can't go to war or the freaking field for a field problem then why should you be promoted?
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I will take a non deployable professional NCO over a deployable unprofessional toxic leader. There are plenty of non deployable jobs in the army that need quality NCOs to keep the mission running. There is no room in this army for individuals who think that their status makes them better then others.
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I have deployed three times. Once after having spinal surgery. I am still deployable and I think you need to consider exactly what it is the Soldier is non deployable for. We all know those who have used the system to their advantage and those who are truly considered assets to the organization. It is very difficult to separate these and be considered impartial in the medical community. Unfortunately this is an issue that will require a better understanding from the medical community in all four branches of service.
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SFC (Join to see) - There is great value to the civilian world for a non-deployable soldier.
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CW4 (Join to see) - And that is where we as leaders need to put the right people in the right places. If I can keep a good troop in the rear because they can whip through paperwork, done. If someone would be better suited to civilian life, put them out. It's a case by case basis and leadership should know where those individuals can best serve the Army, even if it means kicking that troop out.
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SFC Thomas, IMHO, you are not only WRONG! but extremely unprofessional as a SFC. You obviously see things one-sided and have a very lack of open mindedness. I for one have deployed seven times and have more time in a combat zone (IN TRUE COMBAT) than many of our young Soldiers, NCO's and Officer's have in the Army. I am now unfortunately a little physically injured making me not deployable at this time. Now according to you, I am useless in this Army. While I can agree to the point that every Soldier should be deployable, there are and needs to be certain exceptions for those wounded warriors injured in combat at least. I am currently working at a senior staff level and bring quite a lot to the table to share with other professionals. I am a MSG with 21 years and am soon to be heading out to retire to allow a younger, more fit SFC to replace me, though that is despite your inaccurate comment above.
JMHO....
JMHO....
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SPC Tommy Faircloth
Hey top I agree 100% with you because at one point I too was undeployable but I think he means the people that sham out of every deployment. I may be reading too far into it but that's what I got from it. I feel bad because I missed 7 deployments in my short time in but only one was because I wasn't deployable.
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MSG Johnathan Mathes
Folks let's remain friendly... this is his opinion... secondly I don't think he was talking about wounded warriors... lastly Sfc... I don't think you should be putting up your personal opinions here of all places... especially if your still active duty... how many people know you? And how does this reflect... espically considering who reads these opinions..to be clear... I've known a lot of folks that gave it all ... broke their backs on jumps... doesn't mean they can't fit the army's needs elsewhere...
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You want to talk about downsizing? How about kicking-out NCO's who can't spell? How about not promoting someone who can't communicate clearly and effectively? I would rather work for someone who can't deploy than someone who is basically illiterate.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SPC (Join to see) - Since we need a smaller more effective force, How about we just select the ones that can do BOTH,, Speak, communicate effectively AND lead, follow.
The rest, well your service is honorable, but someone has to go..as such, P3 and not in a assignment that fits your limitations,, MEDBOARD.. Can not effectivly communicate out you go..(contrary to your opinion, I found an SM regardless of other attributes, who could not effectively communicate a hindrance to the unit, the team and the mission. )
The rest, well your service is honorable, but someone has to go..as such, P3 and not in a assignment that fits your limitations,, MEDBOARD.. Can not effectivly communicate out you go..(contrary to your opinion, I found an SM regardless of other attributes, who could not effectively communicate a hindrance to the unit, the team and the mission. )
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SSG James Gass
I had the opportunity to work with many soldiers that had trouble spelling and sometimes communicating but were some of the best engineers around.
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I agree SGM,there should be a balance between the two .There's good and bad on both sides,theres soldiers that have been injured but they do their best to set the example,and also theres people w difficulties to communicate and pass instructions but they do their best,and theres also on both sides people that do not care about anything at all ,they just wanna say they "served"and thats it ,some one has to go,but ive seen bad calls on who can stay or not
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book smart is NOT always the answer,, I've served with some HERO's who couldn't address a group of soldiers but would give his life to protect you and yours.. How ever I do know of cases of individuals that play the game and reap the benefits,, it does hurt to see them get promoted when they don't meet the standards.. and you work so hard to make them.. It is a two way street,,, But we all know the military does things so NO one is irreplaceable...
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