Posted on Feb 24, 2020
If you fail ABCP at NCOES and get dismissed, but pass before they can flag you, what happens?
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NCOES can't flag you, you don't belong to them in emilpo. They send the failing tape to your unit and tell them to flag you.
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SFC (Join to see) See AR 350-1 para 3–13 d through e
Physical readiness and height and weight requirements for military institutional training
d. Height and weight screening and body composition standards.
(1) Policy for height and weight screening standards and body composition standards are contained in AR 600–9
(2) Soldiers attending military schools and institutional training courses, in either a PCS or TDY status, which require preparation of a DA Form 1059 (Service School Academic Evaluation Report) will be administered height and weight screening as a mandatory course requirement.
(3) One re-screening is allowed. It will be administered no earlier than seven days and no later than 24 days after the initial failure to meet body composition standards.
(4) Soldiers who subsequently fail to meet the body composition standards of AR 600–9 will be removed from the course.
e. The DA Form 1059 of Soldiers who fail to pass the APFT and/or meet body fat composition standards will be annotated in block 11d “failed to Achieve Course Standards.” Soldiers who fail to achieve course standards are not eligible to enroll in any PME courses for 6 months after their dismissal. The 6-month waiting period begins on the day after the DA Form 1059 is signed. Soldiers who fail to achieve course standards a second time are not eligible to enroll in any PME courses for 1 year after the second failure. School commandants and commanders will take the following actions for Soldiers who fail to meet APFT and/or body fat composition standards:
If the School did its job, if your unit does its job, and if there are no new DA messages Im not finding
When you return to unit , You will be flagged , you will be placed in the ABCP, and then, if you meet standards you should be released from the ABCP, may get the flag lifted.
Physical readiness and height and weight requirements for military institutional training
d. Height and weight screening and body composition standards.
(1) Policy for height and weight screening standards and body composition standards are contained in AR 600–9
(2) Soldiers attending military schools and institutional training courses, in either a PCS or TDY status, which require preparation of a DA Form 1059 (Service School Academic Evaluation Report) will be administered height and weight screening as a mandatory course requirement.
(3) One re-screening is allowed. It will be administered no earlier than seven days and no later than 24 days after the initial failure to meet body composition standards.
(4) Soldiers who subsequently fail to meet the body composition standards of AR 600–9 will be removed from the course.
e. The DA Form 1059 of Soldiers who fail to pass the APFT and/or meet body fat composition standards will be annotated in block 11d “failed to Achieve Course Standards.” Soldiers who fail to achieve course standards are not eligible to enroll in any PME courses for 6 months after their dismissal. The 6-month waiting period begins on the day after the DA Form 1059 is signed. Soldiers who fail to achieve course standards a second time are not eligible to enroll in any PME courses for 1 year after the second failure. School commandants and commanders will take the following actions for Soldiers who fail to meet APFT and/or body fat composition standards:
If the School did its job, if your unit does its job, and if there are no new DA messages Im not finding
When you return to unit , You will be flagged , you will be placed in the ABCP, and then, if you meet standards you should be released from the ABCP, may get the flag lifted.
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SGM Erik Marquez
SFC (Join to see) - "It will be 2cweeks and being tested as a unit then"
It does not matter if it is 1 day or one month... you should be returning to your unit with a 1059 annotated IAW with the regulation and your unit is supposed to follow regs and policy.
There is no gray area, no "may" it is in black and white what is supposed to happen..
If the school house chose not to follow Reg's and policy's or commander chooses not to follow regs and policy, well that is on them and perhaps you will get the break your looking for.
It does not matter if it is 1 day or one month... you should be returning to your unit with a 1059 annotated IAW with the regulation and your unit is supposed to follow regs and policy.
There is no gray area, no "may" it is in black and white what is supposed to happen..
If the school house chose not to follow Reg's and policy's or commander chooses not to follow regs and policy, well that is on them and perhaps you will get the break your looking for.
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