Posted on Feb 16, 2016
COL Mikel J. Burroughs
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RP Members this is one of those questions that got lost back in 2016 that is still a great question.

What would you do about this situation? Would you turn them in or comfront them first?

Would you have rights if you were a "whistleblower" against your immeidate supervisor or leader?

How many have been faced with this situation and can you share your story with the rest of the RP Group (no names please)?
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SPC Christopher Perrien
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Politics and Power. You had best know who their friends are and who your friends are before you do.I would be concern with fraud that affects safety or readiness, don't worry about other scamming that does not. A lot of people doing a lot of wrong things , not just fraud, adultery being a big example. People stepping on their dicks like that will usually get busted in time. Don't threaten your own career but also realize doing good can help your career and the service, IF done correctly.
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SPC James Jackson
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What's more important.. your standing with the group or your integrity? I was working in the DFAC and one evening watched some cooks (they were NCO's) raid the freezer for some burgers, steaks and such then turn around and write it up on a ration request like it was cooked in the dining facility. When I questioned them about it I was told to stay in my lane and just write it up like I was told or life would get real hard real fast. Since I was new, one of 4 white guys in a platoon of black folk and new to my duty station at first I didn't say anything (I know that made me just as complicit). Couple of weeks went by and I was back in the DFAC again and a long weekend came up and once again the same group came in and raided the walk in freezer and then expected me to write it up as before except this time I refused. After they left I called the DFAC manager and he was pissed at me for calling on a holiday weekend and told me he would deal with it come Monday. What I didn't know.. I was the one that was being "dealt" with.. bad counseling sessions, passed over for boards, classes, promotions, etc. .. when it came to a head was one night I was helping unload a truck for them and the same guys took a case of steaks for the fourth and nobody batted an eye as they just took them off the pallet from behind the building and loaded them up and drove off. I finally got a hold of the officer in charge of the DFAC and my 1SG and told them the whole deal going on. This incident and fallout from it ..DFAC manager MSG, 2 SFC, a Sgt and a Cpl all got busted for stealing over a thousand dollars worth of food, followed me even after I changed my mos when I reenlisted. If it wouldn't have been for me getting fked up and ultimately put out medically, my career was over any ways. It followed me through a school and to another duty station where come to find out a couple of guys knew each other from there. But at least I escaped with my integrity intact even though I had to watch my back for 3 years after it all happened. Looking back the only thing I would have done differently is gone straight to Top the first time other than that I would go through the same shit again if it means I keep my integrity where it should be.. up front and leading the way. This happened in the early through the mid 90's.
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Capt Gene Leone
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Your story and mine are very similar. You did the right thing and stood for integrity and for that I salute you! HUA!
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PFC Gregory Spear
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Turn them in.
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SSG Patrick Sloan
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Turn it in it, report it and be damn the consequences.
We had, I say, we because it involves my wife, my sister-in-law and me. We worked for a small city in Texas, leadership change over the years, finally come to a city manager and others being involved in super shady and some instances illegal activity. We were the only three remaining who would take a stand and took stands we did. CM finally was able to get his way and managed to have us all three terminated. Not much we can do it about it except for one thing, stand proud. Our ethics and integrity are intact and we will never face any prison time when their day comes.
Ethics and integrity matters!
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SSG David McPherson
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No brainer report it
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SPC Rob Raybourn
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As a 92Y in the 90's I had to run a few investigations into fraud and it was never fun. Once, while recovering from back surgery, I was called in to run an investigation against my supply sergeant and after completion nothing was done except for command letting her know that I had done an investigation which made things a little tense for a bit.
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SPC Louis Miller
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What is well known for any leader in ANY aspect is that if that leader or those leaders fail themselves, within the context of duty, honor, and integrity above all.......then they have also failed ME and all who are associated under their tutelage or leadership. PERIOD! If you can't show me those traits, then I will ABSOLUTELY show you how you can recover them. This "recovery" of those traits might not be to the liking of said leader (s); nevertheless, that leader or those leaders will recover them, if they chose to do so.
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PO2 Lewis Brockman
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I see that most of the responses on here are from a much younger generation. Not a bad thing just different time and different situation
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CW4 Craig Urban
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Tough when he or she is in your rating scheme. I know happened to me twice. Got dinged on my OER. 3 block. Still made cw4. Trips one s year to new Orleans to inspect exhibitiors because that is where his daughter was going to college.
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CW4 Craig Urban
CW4 Craig Urban
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First was a bn commander married banging a female captain. Who was ordnance. She did not know the difference between a m,35 or m52. She made LTC and then retired. Turned down battalion command and brigade command. My buddies know who I am talking about.
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PO2 Lewis Brockman
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Since I would not be here today if not for him I would never be the whistle blower He could crap in the co's flat hat andI would not care
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